Greek Taliban Crack Down On Britons Having Fun

[VetLegion]

How's that for a bombastic thread title?



Greek authorities once more shock the civilised world by claiming naked breasts offend their civilisation

In the most recent event, an innocent young british girl was sent to the dungeons for 8 months:

Rhodes prosecutor George Economou told one British tourist, Jemma Gunning, after she stripped off in front of 500 cheering clubbers at a 4am party. "You have insulted our civilisation and insulted your own country," he continued, before she was given an eight-month jail sentence

http://travel.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,7445,1026098,00.html

And I thought Americans were the puritan ones




/joking


Ok, seriousely now, I agree with Greeks on this. Tourists, English or other, should not be allowed to go totaly off limits. I would not fine this girl just for showing her breasts though. Perhaps she was just checking are they still there or somehing

In Croatia, young tourists have places where they can go on heavy drinking, but these are usually beaches some distance from actuall settlements where people live or have houses or hotels. And there are not many of these places.

So Greece should probably also have these lets-get-drunk-and-see-if-we-survive-it in unpopulated islands or something.

How do you people propose this situation be resolved?

[Boris Godunov]

8 months?! Positively ludicrous.









She should be given 20 years for showing breasts in public.

[VetLegion]

I am as shocked as you are. Greeks need to show some resolve here. Make an example of her, like they did with Super Mario, may he rest in peace

[Dinner]

Hell, every young Greek male should be offended that their government is trying to deny them nubile, easy, and obviously drunk women.

[Bereta_Eder]

It is one thing having fun and a different thing doing this Vetlegion:



Tour operators are blamed for death by booze

Greeks call for clampdown on British hooliganism

Helena Smith Rhodes
Sunday August 17, 2003
The Observer

Irish-born Paddy Doran died almost immediately after he was stabbed in the throat by another British tourist partying in a Rhodes bar last week. For Greeks, appalled by the alcohol-fuelled antics of hooligan holidaymakers, the 17-year-old's death will not be forgotten quickly.
Instead, it has renewed their determination to crack down on the sort of riotous behaviour blamed for fellow reveller, Peter Navarro, attacking Doran with a broken bottle during a drunken nightclub brawl.

The 21-year-old Navarro, who faces an investigating magistrate today, with five other Britons accused of causing affray, admitted killing Doran.

He said he had been so drunk he could barely remember why. Police, who have stepped up patrols in all resorts beloved of British youths, believe the fight began over a girl who had been flirting with the men.

Doran was the second Briton in under a week to die in Faliraki, the island's infamous 'anything goes' resort. Days before, a 30-year-old tourist was crushed to death trying to wriggle under a dustbin lorry in what appears to have been a drunken dare.

That followed an incident when an Irish tourist shinnied up a flagpole outside a Rhodes hotel, snatched the Greek ensign and ran naked through the streets ripping it to shreds. Weeks before, Greeks had been scandalised by televised video footage of three female Club 18-30 representatives participating in an oral sex show on a Corfu beach. In Faliraki, say outraged locals, intoxicated Britons frequently indulge in street sex after bar binges.

'This boy's death is seen as the tip of the iceberg. It's got people very agitated,' said Faliraki Mayor Yiannis Iatrides of last week's tragedy. 'It's another symp tom of unacceptable behaviour which has to stop. Locals are not just upset, they're a bit frightened. By about midnight a lot of these youths are so drunk they begin undressing and running around totally naked. We Greeks would never do this in their country. It's quite obscene.'

Since the season began 'at least 200' Britons had been arrested, either for drug dealing or being drunk and disorderly, he said. 'We don't have problems with tourists from anywhere else, just Britain,' the mayor lamented.

Increasingly, tour operators, with Club 18-30 (slogan: 'Nothing is Sacred') in the lead, are being blamed for the drunken antics. Tour reps, Greek officials say, make it their business to get tourists to lose their inhibitions.

On organised pub-crawls in resorts such as Faliraki - the scene of a rash of rapes - holidaymakers are 'egged on' to drink as much as possible by reps on commission from bar owners. If they remove their clothes they are promised a free pub-crawl coupon (10 free drinks) the next day.

'A lot of the problem stems from the way the holiday packages are advertised in Britain,' said Alexis Doukas at the Greek National Tourism Board (EOT). 'People see programmes on television and think anything goes.'

After Doran's death, local tour agents were summoned by Rhodes prosecutor Giorgos Iconomou to discuss controlling the behaviour of UK tourists.

Politicians have called for tour companies to be bound by a 'contract of good behaviour'. 'It's the clubs, especially the reps, who encourage a lot of this behaviour by hosting provocative games and egging on youngsters to drink as much as possible,' said Corfu MP Dr Spyridon Spyrou. 'Most group leaders are on commission so it's in their interests for clients to keep buying drinks.'

And yet Britons top tourist arrivals - more than three million are expected to visit Greece this year - so nobody is keen to drive them away.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1020318,00.html

[Al B. Sure!]

what is with tourists? they think that because they're in other country, they can do whatever the hell they want?

I'm just glad that most tourists in America tend to be Japanese and in philly, all they do is go to Independence Hall, see the liberty bell, and go to the "Love statue" park and the art museum... good old japanese people... clean and mannerly.

[Dinner]

If I was greek I'd want my government to get more of these flussies to show up and proform sex acts for our valient single men.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
good old japanese people... clean and mannerly.

Uhhh, you don't have the experience with Japanese tourists I have had.

First, they travel in hordes. Not one, two, three or even five. We're talking at least 15. They are pushy, they have no respect for personal space, they tend to leave litter wherever they go, and they'll inconvenience anyone to get a desired picture. Just try getting off of a subway car when Japanese tourists are trying to get on. They will push you aside to race to any empty seat they can get.

This is by no means confined to the Japanese, but they aren't the stereotypical polite people you claim.

[Al B. Sure!]

Boris:

the no respect for personal space probably is just a cultural thing stemming from living in crowded japan... dont take it too personal or as the japanese people being rude.

[Kuciwalker]

However, they are being rude.

[Spiffor]

The excessive drinking should be punished. But punishing someone (and a hefty punition too! 8 months in prison is not something you'd want) for public nudity? In a club? What kind of puritan hole is FOPG?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by skywalker
However, they are being rude.

Precisely.

Being a polite tourist means respecting and following the traditions of behavior for the culture you are visiting. It doesn't matter if it's acceptable to jam onto a subway car before letting people get off of it in your country--here it is very rude, and doing it makes you an inconsiderate tourist.

[VetLegion]

Paiktis, sure, the examples in the article are all very tragic, except the guy who ran naked with the flag, that's just silly.

But so is convicting this girl, I don't think she is the source of the problem

And there is certainly a British side to this we did not hear yet.

[reds4ever]

Faleraki is marketted as a place to go and get drunk and laid, they've been quite happily taking the (mainly) British money for years now, its a bit rich for them to get all morally upstanding all of a sudden?

And whats to offend about Greek civilization? They havn't done a tap in 2000 years! ;O)

[Whaleboy]

The greeks were OFFENDED by naked British flesh?!?!?!

I have to seriously rethink my perceived intentions of greek men!!