"I want my life back!"

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Azazel
That's gross, Michael. Not all of us are into such kind of stuff.

One has to admit it is a very efficient method though

[Az]

/me is relieved when he understands that not everyone on 'poly has the same dirty mind he has.

[Ted Striker]

not so fast you pervert

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Azazel

That's why you pick one of the louder ones, and make a point of spreading his DNA over as much of the pavement, gravel, lockerrooms, or whatever hard, unpleasant objects or surfaces are handy in the school environment.

That's gross, Michael. Not all of us are into such kind of stuff.

Let's talk about the Palestinians, shall we? Sometimes you have to deal with people on the level they dictate, because they won't give you a choice.

If you could have a reasonable discussion with these people, by definition they wouldn't be bullies and *******s.

And if it gets down to my DNA on the pavement, or his, it ain't gonna be mine.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
MTG has a nice habit of blaming victims.

As opposed to the rather lucrative, modern trend of creating a society of victims, all of whom can be cured by spending some amount of money on something or someone?

Gloria Allred been doing lapdances for you, playa?

[Ted Striker]

I'd hit it.

[Az]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Let's talk about the Palestinians, shall we? Sometimes you have to deal with people on the level they dictate, because they won't give you a choice.

If you could have a reasonable discussion with these people, by definition they wouldn't be bullies and *******s.

And if it gets down to my DNA on the pavement, or his, it ain't gonna be mine.

Oh wow, people are still not understanding.


just ignore that comment , I guess.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by notyoueither


or, you comit suicide, which more than a few kids do when subjected to endless ridicule and abuse by their peers.

Sorry, I got no patience for the 'pick yourself up by the boot straps and be a man' brigade when it comes to youngsters killing each other or killing themselves because of the crap we foist on them and the total failure we have been in protecting them from crap by each other.

So how far do we go in protecting the eggshell crowd from the mean nasty world out there? Anyone who commits suicide over "ridicule" has their own set of problems above and beyond the *******s who pick on them. The *******s need to be dealt with, but the "victims" need to get their own **** together. What next, they'll commit suicide or go postal when they get fired from a job because their self-esteem just can't cope with it?

There's a whole industry in the form of lawyers, shrinks, pop-shrinks, "self-help" authors, all making a fortune out of encouring everyone to find their inner victim and wallow in their victimhood.

"The crap we foist on them" - nothing they do themselves, and nothing they (aggressor or "victim") are responsible for, is it?

Many of the reactions to this case are clear examples of what is wrong. It is the victims fault. The bullies and those who ridicule a child are not at fault and should not be held accountable.

Yes, let's make everyone who downloaded the video pay. Everyone who edited the different versions of the tape and redistributed it. Let's bankrupt the parents of some kids who may be real raging *******s, or they may be dufuses (dufi?) like this kid. We don't know, we just know the characterization filter through the lawyers who stand to make a good chunk of money.

Well, it's bloody well time we held the ****** accountable and at least tried to make the lives of youngsters a little more bearable.

Oh yes, and this lawsuit is ALLLLLLLL about that. No money damages at all, and the plaintiff's attorney's aren't in it for money or publicity either.

If you want to hold the *******s accountable, the appropriate forum is through the school. If you want to make money, the appropriate forum is through the courts.

[Ted Striker]

Unfortunatley though MTG, the school can't make amends for what happened because it doesn't have an international reach.

The entire world knows who this kid is.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Azazel



Oh wow, people are still not understanding.


just ignore that comment , I guess.

I understood perfectly, honey. I was just not going there.

[Nubclear]

I see...so he starts out making "SHAME SHAME SHAME!" judgments on people who happen to agree with the kid, as if anyone who disagreed with DRose was a nasty, horrible person, yet I am somehow making you look bad? Please. Be more concerned with how you present your own arguments, not others.

I feel the need to reiterate: Boris: Cool it. I support your position, but your making people who support your position look like asses.

If it's legally okay to splash the image of someone across the net without their knowledge or permission in this instance, why not in any other?

Ah, but its not! You forget that I agree with your position. However, the two simply are not comparable. That is all I am saying.

Temper tantrum?

Well, those perverts who videotaped women peeing in public restrooms will be glad to know you're on their side.

It's a shame you don't have any concern for the kid's well-being and are so blithe about the bullies who have tormented him for so long.

Your moral indignation is cute, but uninteresting, as it's hollow.

Why not just try and argue with people without being such a high-and-mighty ******* about it?

What a crock of bull****.

Well, while I'd like to accept the "congradulations" [sic] for such handywork,

I believe there is "lawful evil." You can play by the rules and still be a dickwad.

I see...so he starts out making "SHAME SHAME SHAME!" judgments on people who happen to agree with the kid, as if anyone who disagreed with DRose was a nasty, horrible person, yet I am somehow making you look bad?

Maybe temper tantrum is a bit of a strong word, however....You haven't been the most calm, rational person you could have been.

what the hell are you on about here? It was just used to demonstrate how once can follow all the rules but still be a jerk. In other words, never getting in trouble doesn't prove one is a good person in any way.

Alright...

He's 15, so he should get over any 'emotional distress' soon.

Possibly not. If this was an isolated incident I may agree with you however with the sheer amount of publicity its getting (Partially due to his own actions) it may leave emotional trauma for quite some time.

Between 7th and 8th grade, I came down with a nasty case of meningitis, was in the hospital for a bunch of days (in isolation, no less, but that's what got me interested in politics, because the Senate Watergate hearings were going on), and when I got out, I was completely messed up. Weak as hell, absolutely no endurance, totally easy "prey" and going to a new school with more than it's share of *******s.

Thats a bit disturbing, actualy.

Well, it's bloody well time we held the ****** accountable and at least tried to make the lives of youngsters a little more bearable.

Let's talk about the Palestinians, shall we?

Sure Theres a suicide (or homicide, depending on if your watching any other news source on the planet or Fox News) in Israel. theres a house demolishing/assasination/somethingelselikethat is Palestine. Theres a suicide (or homicide, depending on if your watching any other news source on the planet or Fox News) in Israel. theres a house demolishing/assasination/somethingelselikethat is Palestine. Theres a suicide (or homicide, depending on if your watching any other news source on the planet or Fox News) in Israel. theres a house demolishing/assasination/somethingelselikethat is Palestine. Theres a suicide (or homicide, depending on if your watching any other news source on the planet or Fox News) in Israel. theres a house demolishing/assasination/somethingelselikethat is Palestine. Theres a suicide (or homicide, depending on if your watching any other news source on the planet or Fox News) in Israel. theres a house demolishing/assasination/somethingelselikethat is Palestine.

Theres a ceasefire!!!! Maybe peace?

Theres a suicide (or homicide, depending on if your watching any other news source on the planet or Fox News) in Israel. theres a house demolishing/assasination/somethingelselikethat is Palestine. Theres a suicide (or homicide, depending on if your watching any other news source on the planet or Fox News) in Israel. theres a house demolishing/assasination/somethingelselikethat is Palestine. Theres a suicide (or homicide, depending on if your watching any other news source on the planet or Fox News) in Israel. theres a house demolishing/assasination/somethingelselikethat is Palestine. Theres a suicide (or homicide, depending on if your watching any other news source on the planet or Fox News) in Israel. theres a house demolishing/assasination/somethingelselikethat is Palestine. Theres a suicide (or homicide, depending on if your watching any other news source on the planet or Fox News) in Israel. theres a house demolishing/assasination/somethingelselikethat is Palestine.

In other words: Let's not compare this to the Palestine-Israel situation

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Unfortunatley though MTG, the school can't make amends for what happened because it doesn't have an international reach.

The entire world knows who this kid is.

And if it wasn't for the publicity hounds (aka plaintiff's lawyers), the world would rapidly forget.

It's the same with anything - once the genie's out of the bottle, you can't force it back in. Even with a lawsuit.

The school still has the reach to punish the other kids for the theft of the original tape and for their misconduct.

[Az]

ahh, the disappointment. I actually thought people are that naive and pure in apolyton.

[Shi Huangdi]

I am glad MtG was able to deal with bullies in an appropriate way, however it is not always an available option for everyone, as often times the victims are much weaker then the agressors, and is of course outnumbered.

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Oh yes, and this lawsuit is ALLLLLLLL about that. No money damages at all, and the plaintiff's attorney's aren't in it for money or publicity either.

If you want to hold the *******s accountable, the appropriate forum is through the school. If you want to make money, the appropriate forum is through the courts."

Uh huh. And schools through their disciplinary actions are always able to keep bullies in tow. The Court in this case is able to do far more in terms of enforcing reperation and setting an example.

"So how far do we go in protecting the eggshell crowd from the mean nasty world out there? Anyone who commits suicide over "ridicule" has their own set of problems above and beyond the *******s who pick on them. The *******s need to be dealt with, but the "victims" need to get their own **** together. What next, they'll commit suicide or go postal when they get fired from a job because their self-esteem just can't cope with it?

There's a whole industry in the form of lawyers, shrinks, pop-shrinks, "self-help" authors, all making a fortune out of encouring everyone to find their inner victim and wallow in their victimhood. "

Research has pretty well established that victimization can cause psychological damage. Suicide is an extreme reaction, but it seems a little callous to blame children who are subjected to isolated and repeated physical and/or mental abuse for not being tough enough.

[Shi Huangdi]

For any caught up on the perception that bullying is merely a harmless stage kids go through, i encourage you to check out some of the stories on this website:

http://www.safeschoolscoalition.org/stories-all.html