"I want my life back!"

[Spiffor]

Besides, the emotional distress may have come progressively. At the beginning of the Star Wars Kid Fashion, it may just have been a joke in the highschool, with little impact on Ghyslain's friendships and self-confidence. As time passes, it is very possible that he became only known and talked to in the light of this video by his colleagues. And systematically ridiculed accordingly.
As such, he may have changed his mind as time passed, and as the situation became more rotten.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Boris: Cool it. I support your position, but your making people who support your position look like asses.

I see...so he starts out making "SHAME SHAME SHAME!" judgments on people who happen to agree with the kid, as if anyone who disagreed with DRose was a nasty, horrible person, yet I am somehow making you look bad? Please. Be more concerned with how you present your own arguments, not others.

3. This kid being phototaped is NOTHING like recording women releasing urine. This is extra-standard highschool fare.

Well duh, it's not the videotaping that was the point, it was using someone's image when they hadn't authorized it. If it's legally okay to splash the image of someone across the net without their knowledge or permission in this instance, why not in any other?

4. Boris: You are in no position to be chewing Drose out for not showing respect for other peoples opinions, considering the temper tantrum your throwing.

What the hell? Temper tantrum? Wherein did I throw a temper tantrum? I just responded to DRose's inane comments with a little scorn. He started out by disrespecting me (and everyone who didn't share his view), and I think my response was actually demonstrating restraint. Especially since I didn't make blatant moral condemnations of the opposing point of view.

Boris was obviously trolling you and you obviously fell for it. Now shut up.

Well duh!

6. Boris: D&D has no place in a debate and is simply a red herring.

what the hell are you on about here? It was just used to demonstrate how once can follow all the rules but still be a jerk. In other words, never getting in trouble doesn't prove one is a good person in any way.

[Tuberski]

First off, the tape was being used for a school project.

Second, his Jedi fighting abilities were not part of the school project.

Third, he used school property for personal use and then didn't even have the brains to erase it.

Fourth, the kids stole it from the school, the school should hold them responsible.

Fifth, Star Wars kid should be held responsible for using school property for personal reasons.

The fact that the tape was stolen in no way absolves Ghyslein(sp) from his share of the blame for this incident.

Simply put, he put the tape on public record by using a school tape and storing it at the school.

If, it was his own tape and they stole it, he would have a chance, but it wasn't.

ACK!

[jdd2007]

He's 15, so he should get over any 'emotional distress' soon. I have no sympathy for him, because it would be cool to be famous like that. If he can't shake off the laughter or turn it around, then maybe he should have already been taking therapy.

[Spiffor]

jdd :
Have you ever been ridiculed by a whole highscholl ? I've nearly been. I happen to have a rare first name, that was ridiculed in a series called "[first name] is stupid". Except for a few real friends, about every social relation I had in junior high with other students was plagued by this 'joke'. The specificity of this 'joke' over other highschool ridiculing is that I had no control at all about it: everybody knew about it, and I could do nothing against. The same applies for Ghyslain.
It was extremely difficult to bear, and still today I have a deadly grudge against the legion of *******s who bullied me over my first name.

You can say "that's because you're weak, you could have got over it". That may be true, but being strong in front of the whole frigging highschool isn't precisely easy at the time of uncertainty that is teenagehood.

I had the luck to have a few real friends towards whom I could turn and forget about the other morons. I don't know if Ghyslain is in the same situation. But if he isn't, he's most likely experiencing something you'd really really hate to experience. I don't think it is valid to give lessons of "get over it" when you have no clue of what he is experiencing

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Enjoining? Good joke when something gets on the internet. Haha.

Sometimes, the reason it's called law and motion is because the law expects you to at least go through the motion.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Spiffor
You can say "that's because you're weak, you could have got over it". That may be true, but being strong in front of the whole frigging highschool isn't precisely easy at the time of uncertainty that is teenagehood.

That's why you pick one of the louder ones, and make a point of spreading his DNA over as much of the pavement, gravel, lockerrooms, or whatever hard, unpleasant objects or surfaces are handy in the school environment.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
That's why you pick one of the louder ones, and make a point of spreading his DNA over as much of the pavement, gravel, lockerrooms, or whatever hard, unpleasant objects or surfaces are handy in the school environment.

Yeah, but did you see Ghyslains' skills at martial arts ?

[MichaeltheGreat]

I was talkin' about you, Spiffor.

Between 7th and 8th grade, I came down with a nasty case of meningitis, was in the hospital for a bunch of days (in isolation, no less, but that's what got me interested in politics, because the Senate Watergate hearings were going on), and when I got out, I was completely messed up. Weak as hell, absolutely no endurance, totally easy "prey" and going to a new school with more than it's share of *******s.

At first, a lot of the losers low on the food chain decided to play with me, because they could always thump my ass, but I worked on correcting that, and by the end of the year, nobody messed with me unless they were real motivated or real stupid.

Bullies are almost invariably yellow bastards (although this school had one who was simply psycho. I'm sure he never managed to breed though, so the genepool is safe from that, at least), so if all they've got is slamming you around physically, you can get in shape enough and overcome your fear enough that you're not a useful target for their chicken****.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
so if all they've got is slamming you around physically, you can get in shape enough and overcome your fear enough that you're not a useful target for their chicken****.

or, you comit suicide, which more than a few kids do when subjected to endless ridicule and abuse by their peers.

Sorry, I got no patience for the 'pick yourself up by the boot straps and be a man' brigade when it comes to youngsters killing each other or killing themselves because of the crap we foist on them and the total failure we have been in protecting them from crap by each other.

Many of the reactions to this case are clear examples of what is wrong. It is the victims fault. The bullies and those who ridicule a child are not at fault and should not be held accountable.

Well, it's bloody well time we held the ****** accountable and at least tried to make the lives of youngsters a little more bearable.

[Ted Striker]

MTG has a nice habit of blaming victims.

[Verto]

I don't believe MtG was blaming the victims; he was giving the advice of, beef up and fight back.

Of course, bullies and the degenerates/dilinquients that fill the public school system need to be dealt with, instead of merely slapped on the wrist.

[Az]

That's why you pick one of the louder ones, and make a point of spreading his DNA over as much of the pavement, gravel, lockerrooms, or whatever hard, unpleasant objects or surfaces are handy in the school environment.

That's gross, Michael. Not all of us are into such kind of stuff.

[Spiffor]

I don't quite understand why the "fight back" crowd is opposed to the trial. After all Ghyslain is precisely fighting the bullies back with his available weapons. Since he most likely sucks at combat, he uses a trial. I fail to see what is wrong with that

[Ted Striker]

If it were me I'd be throwing down AND suing their asses.

Make a nice little list and start crossing off names. Cause I'm ****ing crazy like that.