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  • #31
    Ummm, Asher, those are easily countered viruses


    Blaster is very easy to counter too, but that doesn't stop people bashing Microsoft for it.
    If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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    • #32
      I like the fact that if a company has its own IT Department, it can go without calling tech support vs. having to pay for tech support from Microsoft (or getting support from the OEM with the uncertainy of wether or not they're really going to be able to help you).

      Microsoft may say that Windows is a better value, but only in some cases. It really depends on your business. In many cases it makes good business sense to use Unix/Linux instead of Windows in certain types of business. And thank goodness that there are many businesses out there that are starting to realize this. Heck, even the U.S. Government has deployed Unix/Linux in many of its agencies, especially in the military. The military? That says a lot. It says that Unix/Linux is very secure and reliable, otherwise it wouldn't be used by the military.
      HAVE A DAY.
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      "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
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      • #33
        Um. elijah, what exactly is your point?

        99.9% of all viruses are easily countered...
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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        • #34
          Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
          Ummm, Asher, those are easily countered viruses


          Blaster is very easy to counter too, but that doesn't stop people bashing Microsoft for it.
          Um, no. The sheer number of viruses that infect Windows computers is what makes people mad.
          HAVE A DAY.
          <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
          "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
          For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
            I like the fact that if a company has its own IT Department, it can go without calling tech support vs. having to pay for tech support from Microsoft (or getting support from the OEM with the uncertainy of wether or not they're really going to be able to help you).
            You make a lot of assumptions for what you know nothing about.
            Corporations negotiate their terms and prices with MS. If they don't want support, they don't ask for it and pay less in return. But the funny thing is, support is actually very important, even for huge corporations. So much so, in fact, Linux isn't free for corporations because they pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for support usually (see Red Hat Enterprise).

            Heck, even the U.S. Government has deployed Unix/Linux in many of its agencies, especially in the military. The military? That says a lot. It says that Unix/Linux is very secure and reliable, otherwise it wouldn't be used by the military.
            I love this, because not a month ago the largest order in MS history just came from the US Army.

            And rest assured Windows is used more than Linux by the US military. So using your fun logic, Windows is obviously much more secure and reliable.

            Although you never know. The US government just last month finally gave Linux a C2 security certification. The thing is, it's only for SuSE and only on very specific hardware, and even then, it's actually one classification of security LOWER than Windows 2000, XP Pro, and 2003 received.
            Last edited by Asher; August 20, 2003, 15:40.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
              Um, no. The sheer number of viruses that infect Windows computers is what makes people mad.
              Well, when you run on 90% of the computers, usually with non-tech-savvy users, you're going to have a lot more viruses than an OS that runs on 1% of the computers, usually by people in tinfoil hats and run everything under a restricted account. Totally different userbases, you'd have the same problems with viruses under Linux and MacOS if they were good enough to actually be popular.

              You, my friend, should be more concerned about how the sheer number of Linux corporate break-ins is considerably higher than Windows corporate break-ins, even though Linux has but a fraction of the marketshare...
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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              • #37
                They showed up at his door with marshalls, then filed suit and put him on TV. They never even asked politely for an audit.

                The BSA and Microsoft are no better and perhaps a lot worse than the Gestapo. It is amazing what Microsoft can get through Congress. Microsoft is not only a anti-trust violator, they seem to be NAZI's. Microsoft is becoming a political issue.
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                • #38
                  Microsoft did give the warning of an audit, if they didn't the Marshalls wouldn't legally be allowed to be there.

                  It's in the license that MS has to give 15 days notice before an audit (the new license last month increased this to 30).

                  It's not mentioned in the article because, well, it's an opinion piece that obviously has a slant against MS. Leaving out little things like that leaves it to creative imaginations like Neds to fill in the blanks themselves with bull.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                  • #39
                    If you love Microsoft so much, why don't you marry it?!
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                    • #40
                      And why don't you go out and get a job?
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                      • #41
                        Don't pick on Asher too much... he actually gave me the giggles of the day with his statement, that not using Windows is the same as not wearing underwear. This Windows == underwear thing was hilarious.

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                        • #42
                          Asher, I don't have a problem with Windows... I'm just joking with ya! Jeez
                          Dom Pedro II - 2nd and last Emperor of the Empire of Brazil (1831 - 1889).

                          I truly believe that America is the world's second chance. I only hope we get a third...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                            Don't pick on Asher too much... he actually gave me the giggles of the day with his statement, that not using Windows is the same as not wearing underwear. This Windows == underwear thing was hilarious.
                            It is a known fact that Linux users don't wear underwear, as well as never shower.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ned
                              Microsoft is not only a anti-trust violator, they seem to be NAZI's.
                              That's a new one.
                              If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Asher
                                It is a known fact that Linux users don't wear underwear, as well as never shower.
                                I remember an internet joke from the 90s, it was called OS-test and was made up like a quiz "Which OS suits you the best". Options were DOS, Windows 3.1, OS/2 and Unix. There were 17 questions, which could be answered with a) through d). I remember only a few of them. The question, what application do you use the most was complex spreadsheet for OS/2, Solitaire for Windows and grep for Unix. And how do you dress was suit and tie for OS/2, sweater and pants for Windows, and "Nerdy T-shirt, jeans and no underpants" for Unix.

                                About the showering habit of Linux users I read only a troll in a German forum. Its title was "Linux-User stinken" (doesn't need to be translated) and was written by an obviously imbecile. But it's a funny read, I saved it as text file at work.

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