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  • #76
    Originally posted by HershOstropoler
    That's utterly bizarre.
    I agree but for some reason the socialists in America keep coming up with bone head ideas like this thus allowing the conservatives to publically humiliate them.
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    • #77
      I have seen many stupid regulations, but that's a really odd one.
      “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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      • #78
        It hink that Oregon has the highest minimum wage in the US and also the worst economy (or second worse or something like that)

        the issue isn't so much that having a high minimum waeg is bad, it is that the economy was changing over from Limber to somethnig else but nothing else ever really occured

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        • #79
          Do you think one of the biggest reasons Oregon failed to attract new industry was it's artificialy high cost structure? I mean it has the most lavish welfare state in the country, one of the highest tax rates, is way over regulated, and has a high minium wage (and the government mandates that all government work can only be proformed by unions at high union rates). Why would any business in it's right mind want to move there?
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          • #80
            The state of Oregon is a closed shop?
            “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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            • #81
              As far as I know the government's contracts can only go to companies which pay union wages.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Oerdin


                I agree but for some reason the socialists in America keep coming up with bone head ideas like this thus allowing the conservatives to publically humiliate them.
                That is a retarded scheme whatever political side you are on. Mind you a lot of the left wing policies that some US lefties come up with are annoying 'cause they give left wing politics a bad name.
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                • #83
                  I some stupid idiot at the gas station 2 weeks ago that was filling up her tank and was talking to her girlfriend in the car. Dumb F*** pulled the nozzel out of the tank before stopping it and got gas all over her...

                  Makes Oregon look smart...

                  I left for Fresno on Friday night gas was $1.68/gallon... Got up Sat morning t o fill up the car it was $1.92/gallon, in Fresno! It is usually 10-20 cents cheaper... Came home Sunday night $2.02/gallon at the same station that was $1.68/gallon only two days before!

                  Gas companies are price gouging... Then, in California, when we have a time when gas could be cheaper we decided to add something to it to make it burn cleaner, F'up our cars, and pollute all the water sheds... I hate environmentalist morons!!!

                  Hmmm, I did go to Fresno for a Lumberjack Competition
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    Yes, it just isn't feasible to have a European mass transit system in most US cities. It would probably bankrupt Atlanta trying to connect all the suburbs to MARTA . Therefore cars are essential.
                    Do you at least have a good public transportation system in downtown ? Many European cities are beginning to have large residential suburbs like in the US, yet the city centres have an excellent mass transit within them. The new idea is to build big parking lots in the outskirts of the city centre, near subway terminals, so that people may take public transportation even though they live far away from the centre.

                    In Bordeaux for example, the mass transit system is currently horrendous, but a tramway is being built. Since traffic is horrible in the city, it is hoped suburbers will park their car at the entry of the city, and take the tram to do their shopping / go to work in the future.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Jon Miller

                      so you are a factory worker?

                      Jon Miller

                      Nope. I'm an IT consultant (professional computer geek ). I plan, design, set up and run database systems for banks and various other customers (most of which are either pretty big companies or government agencies). I actually make a good deal more than the average Norwegian factory worker. Guess you could ask why I brought in the American factory worker in the first place, but hey, gas prices are the same to me as they are to a factory worker...
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                      • #86
                        gas mileage arguement is a little overdun. Again, most cars in america are the same in europe or anywhere else gas mileage wise. My Mazda 6 gets 27/36 mpg and its a 12 gallon tank. My F-150 got about half that much (which is still pretty good). And most compact cars (Neon, Intrepid, eclipse, taurus) get in excess of 40 mpg.

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                        • #87
                          It's not so cheap in the US when you consider how much of our military budget is spent on the Middle East. With all the tax money we're spending on it, we could conver to wind & solar and get our revenge on the terrorists by making their country, just a superstitous desert backwater without any marketable resources.

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                          • #88
                            WOOT!

                            Here's to boycotting Arab oil.
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