Gas!!!

[MikeH]

Except in the UK we taxed the hell out of petrol and wasted it so we have a totally crap transport infrastructure still.

[Pekka]

2 bucks per gallon? THAT'S CHEAP! EVERYBODY, GRAB CONTAINERS ETC, PRICES HAVE CRASHED DOWN IT'S SOME KIND OF MISTAKE LET'S TAKE ADVANTAGE NOW!

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by MikeH
Except in the UK we taxed the hell out of petrol and wasted it so we have a totally crap transport infrastructure still.

Yeah, I almost said that myself, but figured some Briton would do it for me, with more authority.

[faded glory]

*****in at 1.73 for UL here

Munch munchin my wallet. Where did the 1.30 gas UL go from a couple of months ago????




grrrr

[GePap]

The question is, who spends the bigger chunk of their income on gasoline. It might cost a lot more in Europe, but one assumes far less is used, and Europeans (well, outside of Britons) have viable alternatives. If you live in LA, you either drive or get a home office.

Conversely, I am sure the situation is worse in the third world, were prices might vary, but incoems are dirt low.

[faded glory]

Well I fail to see how europe has that much more alternatives than us. We have trains, Buses, everything they have there. It every city over 20,000 people we have those. Its just a matter of, ok, social status and the feeling of freedom, not having to rely on a bus schedule.

[GePap]

It isn;t the same by a long shot. First of all, most cities have poor public transti. Buses are slow and coverage not good. Few large cities have good light rail. Then there is distances. no where in Europe is as open as the great plains. The notion of having to drive 20 miles to find anything is relatively unheard off.

So no, the alternatives are NOT the same in both places, not by a long shot.

[Verto]

GePap beat me to it. The US is a large country, where some states are as large as European nations. Putting in a mass transit system is a little more difficult, and for more than just this reason.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by faded glory
Well I fail to see how europe has that much more alternatives than us. We have trains, Buses, everything they have there. It every city over 20,000 people we have those. Its just a matter of, ok, social status and the feeling of freedom, not having to rely on a bus schedule.

You've never seen how good the mass transite is on the continent have you? Travel more and then you will see what a **** system we have.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Guardian
At the moment, gas is NOK 8.49 per liter where I am.

That's almost exactly € 1 and about US$ 1.15.

So, that's over $ 4 per gallon.

-But then again, I make at least three times more than the average American factory worker, so I guess I can afford to pay somewhat higher prices...

All things told, I think the cost of living pretty much evens out in the long run. The thing is, I can go to America and have a field day buying stuff because to me everything's so cheap over there, but an American coming to Norway is going to get ripped off and skinned alive! -Economically speaking, that is...

so you area factory worker?

Jon Miller

[Boris Godunov]

European mass transit is awesome. Only in NY and Boston in the U.S. will you find comparable systems.

Re AZ gas "shortage": It's not that there is a shortage of gas, per se, but that gas is slow in getting to the stations. The pipeline to Phoenix from Tulsa, the only fuel pipeline to the city, is down after a major break last week and will likely be down for a little while yet. So they have to ship in the gas by truck, which means it's slower going.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yes, it just isn't feasible to have a European mass transit system in most US cities. It would probably bankrupt Atlanta trying to connect all the suburbs to MARTA . Therefore cars are essential.

Just filled up today in Jersey. $1.37 / gal.

[Jon Miller]

I like the metro in DC

it needs something connecting the suburbs without ahving to run downtown thpigh )the fabled purple line)

Jon Miller

[:) Smiley]

Jersey gas rules. I live five miles from the nation's biggest refinery and gas sometimes goes for less than a buck a gallon. Now it's about $1.30. One of

[Imran Siddiqui]

Heh... I'm at least an hour away from any refinery (on the shore) and I still get decent price for gas .