Prison rape

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Dissident
I do support child molestors getting raped.

I'm willing to bet that ironically they're less likely to be the victim of prison rape than other prisoners simply because no prisoner would want to be thought of as having been associated with the child molester. There's also the possibility that while he's violating the molester someone might come up behind him and snuff both of them.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by donegeal
Well, here is a perspective of a correctional officer.

Speaking of "solving the problem", how would it be done? Higher more officers? Good luck! How many of you would want to have to go to work everyday and be surrounded by murders rapists and child molesters? Everyday there is a chance of being killed by some crazy Inmate.

Damn... duty calls.... will post back here later.

That's why prisons tend to be located in decaying rural areas, where their presence helps to reduce the unemployment rate.

[Rasbelin]

Read the story of Rodney Hulin before you start making your stupid wiseass comments again.

My name is Linda Bruntmyer, and I am here today to tell you about my son, Rodney Hulin.

When Rodney was sixteen, he and his brother set a dumpster on fire in an alley in our neighborhood. The authorities decided to make an example of Rodney. Even though only about $500 in damage was caused by the fire, they sentenced him to eight years in an adult prison.

We were frightened for him from the start. At sixteen, Rodney was a small guy, only 5’2 and about 125 pounds. And as a first-time offender, we knew he might be targeted by older, tougher, adult inmates.

Then, our worst nightmares came true. Rodney wrote us a letter telling us he’d been raped. A medical examination had confirmed the rape. A doctor found tears in his rectum and ordered an HIV test, because, he told us, one-third of the prisoners there were HIV positive.

But that was only the beginning. Rodney knew if he went back into the general population, he would be in danger. He wrote to the authorities requesting to be moved to a safer place. He went through all the proper channels, but he was denied.

After the first rape, he was returned to the general population. There, he was repeatedly beaten and forced to perform oral sex and raped. He wrote for help again. In his grievance letter he wrote, “I have been sexually and physically assaulted several times, by several inmates. I am afraid to go to sleep, to shower, and just about everything else. I am afraid that when I am doing these things, I might die at any minute. Please sir, help me.”

Still, officials told him that he did not meet “emergency grievance criteria.” We all tried to get him to a safe place. I called the warden, trying to figure out what was going on. He said Rodney needed to grow up. He said, “This happens everyday, learn to deal with it. It’s no big deal.”

We were desperate. Rodney started to violate rules so that he would be put in segregation. After he was finally put in segregation, we had about a ten minute phone conversation. He was crying. He said, “Mom, I'm emotionally and mentally destroyed.”

That was the last time I heard his voice. On the night of January 26, 1996, my son hanged himself in his cell. He was seventeen and afraid, and ashamed, and hopeless. He laid in a coma for the next four months before he died.

Sadly, I know that Rodney is not alone. The human rights group, Stop Prisoner Rape gets calls and letters everyday from men and women who have survived prisoner rape and from their family members asking them for help, asking them to help them move to a safer place, asking them to help protect their loved ones who are being raped, asking them to explain why there is no one in authority that will step in and say, “No! This is not justice. This is not right.”.

We know that what happened to Rodney could have been prevented. There are ways to protect the vulnerable inmates and ways to respond to the needs of prisoners who have been sexually assaulted. Even so, vulnerable prisoners are being sexually brutalized across the country, everyday. Rodney tried to ask for help, and I tried too. But nothing was done.

Prison rape is wrong. Period.

[Pekka]

dr strangelove, that is if you have privatized prisons. I'm not judging or anything, but I see there might be problems, when people start doing business with this thing, building prisons. That can (I say can, I don't say will) lead to situation, where you need to fill the prisons, meaning after lobbying and the process of making good business the justice system sentences sometimes people to the big house even when it wasn't really necessary. I don't know the the state of private prisons, or other prisons are in the US, except that there are good prisons, and bad prisons in quality and in every sense.

When private prisons want to make more money, they will do savings, and the inmates will pay the price for it.
Is there effective system that monitors that all prisons have filled at least the minimum requirements? Sure there is, but is it working?

What about the security of private prisons? I bet it's good, but I think overkills might be the place for these private prisons, or some of them. It is business after all.
Get good records, get the prison full, but what are the methods, are they acceptable? I don't know, that's why I'm asking all the time.

Oh, and to prison raping, it's wrong naturally. Some people 'might deserve it', but in general prison rape is not part of the punishment. That is extra, and person who rapes inside prison shold be castrated and sealed somewhere safe where he can not interract with other inmates.

My reasoning is, because rape is not the punishment. The punishment is the time you have to do, and even as an inmate, you have some rights. And those rights include the right of not getting raped. **** happens, it's not like some of these people care about the law, and about violating someones rights, but if we see rape as justified part of the punishment, then we should add it to the sentencing 'You shall be jailed for 5 years with multiple raping by assigned fellow inmates'. If we don't add this to the sentence, then it shouldn't be tolerated at all.

[st_swithin]

Originally posted by elijah


Don't drop the soap.

Why do you think Tyler is holding the soap in FC?

[Pekka]

And I'm not saying that we should treat these people like they didn't do the crime. But basic human rights should be followed strictly. I don't support torturing either. I'm not saying we need to get colour tv and cable to every inmate, I'm saying they deserve the best effort of their personal safety inside, as it is possible. I think there can't be expections, that the eyes of the law is closed in different places. I want to believe that those laws will protect us all, prisoner or not. It's sometimes impossible inside prison with full of criminals, but we shouldn't tolerate these things IMO. It's not about destroying the prisoner.. it's about punishing him for the crime within the laws we have made.

[chequita guevara]

We already have private prisons, Pekka. It's a was one of the fastest growing industries in the 90s. Fortunately, the Phoney President's stupidity with the budget has caused deficits in many states, such that they are now engaged in early release programs for non-violent offenders and many states are experimenting with drug counseling for people convicted of possession instead of mandatory prison terms.

[st_swithin]

AMERICAN HISTORY XI: *SPOILER!!!*

You find out that the mirror-image swastika, also known as the "crux grammata" (manji) inspires Derek Vinyard to higher aspirations. In Chinese, 'mahn jii' sounds like the words meaning "slowly healing."

[Somewhat paraphrased from the translation notes of "Blade of the Immortal" by Hiroaki Samura:]

The main character in "Blade of the Immortal," Manji, has taken the "crux grammata" as both his name and his personal symbol. This symbol is also known as the swastika, a name derived from the Sanskrit scastika (meaning "welfare," from su - "well" + asti - "he is").

As a symbol of prosperity and good fortune, the swastika was widely used throughout the ancient world (for example, appearing often on Mesopotamian coinage), including North and South America.

Furthermore, the symbol has been used by many the Chinese and Japanese for more than TWO THOUSAND YEARS to denote Buddhist foods which are certified to be vegetarian, in the same way that the word 'kosher' denotes food properly blessed and sanctified by a Rabbi.

The swastika had NO anti-Semitic or pro-Nazi meaning behind the use of the symbol from around 3,000 BCE (bc) until 1910. THOSE ANTI-SEMITIC MEANINGS DID NOT EXIST UNTIL 1910, AND ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE HAKENKREUZ (the lunar symbol, arms clockwise), NOT THE SWASTIKA (the solar symbol, arms counterclockwise).

After 1910, Buddhists were shunned as being 'insensitive' to the plight of the Jews during WWII, and were asked to refrain from using the symbol, lest they injure someone's feelings. The Buddhists, ever anxious to avoid stepping on the feelings of others, ceased to use the symbol, but the religion as a whole began to lose coherence, since part of the language of the Buddhists had been eradicated forever by the victims of the Holocaust: the Jews.

I feel that if anyone has a gripe with the Jews, it's the Buddhists. They have a right to declare a jihad on Zion, but it's not Our way. We believe that every species can smell its own extinction, and often desperate animals will try to pull others down with it, just or not.

Good luck eradicating more and more of the history and honour behind other religions! You have already succeeded in eliminating the Buddhists from your allies, as well as any support we may have lent you. Unfortunately, we were the last of those who might have offered any help, and you turned your backs to us, and shunned us, and were spiteful.

We no longer have any other cheek to turn. Instead, we turn our collective backs upon you, and swear that for all Eternity, the Jewish people shall NEVER again pass under the merciful eyes of Buddah.

In the next 10 years, maybe less, the Jewish peoples will merely be a bedtime story for children, in which a great Evil had been banished from the light of the Sun and the Moon, and the victory of Good will be known by that symbol which was so dreaded and loathed by them.

LONG LIVE JUSTICE!!!

[Proteus_MST]

@st_within:
Could it be that you wanted to post this within the
Future of Civilizations in 30 years-Thread ?


And could it be that you meant 2010 instead of 1910?

[monolith94]

That's just a horrible troll, and totally absurd.

[st_swithin]

And if it's absurd, it can't possibly be right, so it must be left.

[monolith94]

If it's absurd, it must be human, because only humans have such a capacity for the ridiculous.

[Whaleboy]

st_swithin, its a hindu symbol, not buddist

[st_swithin]

Baloney. It's buddhist because I say it's buddhist.

[DinoDoc]

Like we'd believe you.