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    Trivialising Prison Rape

    http://www.counterpunch.org/coolman08012003.html

    Raises questions of the rights of the prisoner, and what should be done to curb what could be considered a major human rights abuse.

    To those so inclined, could also be a massive laugh.
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  • #2
    Can't see how it can be a laugh. It's indeed a huge abuse of human rights.
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    • #3
      That doesn't mean that we don't trivialize it and laugh about it.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #4
        Prisoners are seen as fair game for anything horrible. After all, they chose to committ a crime (ignoring the large numbers of people who are in prison who don't belong there).
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • #5
          true

          one thing about curbing prison rape is that, not only is it morally the right thing to do, it's also the most practical thing to do

          you don't want those guys coming out even more messed up than they already are
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          • #6
            I suppose I'm inclined a bit of both - you could say its part of "the prison experience", but my side the recognises human rights says this isnt part of the package, its a violation, its unwarrented, and its a problem. Certainly the perpetrators should get longer sentences.
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            • #7
              until then i am going to continue to do Eddie Murphy's impersonation of a gay Mr. T

              "HEY FOOL! YOU LOOKING MIGHTY CUTE IN THEM JEANS!!!"
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              • #8
                Unfortunatly, perhaps the most immoral thing I've ever thought, is that I'm very glad that my 19 year old class mate who drove drunk and killed my sister's 16 year old friend will be raped up the ass in prison (and according to stories, already has while he was held pending bail)
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                • #9
                  If prison rape was part of the sentencing guidelines that would be one thing, but its not, it’s just as awful as any other rape. The system simply doesn't function properly, and this is another symptom. When the state imprisons people it takes full responsibility for their safety, and it routinely fails in its duty. I have no problem with Borowitz or Leno trivializing it and making fun of rape in prisons, because it wouldn't be punch line fodder if it weren’t so common. If it were actually a rare occurrence then it would shock people; instead, we as a society are just desensitized to it. Who cares, they deserve it right?

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                  • #10
                    Ah yes, but what of the other 19 year old class mate of yours who simply bought the alcohol that that other one used to get hammered out of his mind, who is currently in prison? Is that what should happen to him?
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                    • #11
                      And, what if it was your brother in prison for drunk driving. Yes, he deserves it, and he will do his time - but would you want for him to get raped?

                      Really, raping isn't what they are sentenced to. And, prison should isolate the criminals, also try to change them for the better... does rape do that?
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                      • #12
                        Maybe,
                        aside from getting their time they haveto stay in Prison prolonged,
                        those People who rape their Inmates should be sent to another special Prison,
                        where you have got only Prisoners who at one time or the other actively raped their Inmates (i.e. not those people who just held him during the rape, but the people, who really got their Pleasure from the victim).

                        At least for a couple of those Rapists it should be a horrible Experience, as they will be turned from former Rapists to Victims themselves, as you can expect that also in this Prison some people will get picked to be raped
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                        • #13
                          Maybe.
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                          • #14
                            I agree, this is a horrid abuse of human rights and God's law
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                            • #15
                              OW! Chr1st, 6 stitches - easy there, little fella!
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