Liberalism

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Which ones? The attack on Afghanistan or Iraq?

I've only heard two things specifically where "the families" have come together to say anything: first is Bush's blocking of, and then censornig of, Congressional and independent inqiries into 9/11. The second was that many families were deeply upset with the Rush to war against Iraq, as they felt it distracted from the War on Terror, at the very least (some were also opposed on moral grounds).

[Whaleboy]

GePap:

I suppose each of these concepts, liberalism and conservatism are like spheres that are different depending on your angle of view, but fundamentally, they are all the same concept, or, as I said earlier, a load of interrelated concept to form something like liberalism or conservatism.

[Whaleboy]

Bush's blocking of, and then censornig of, Congressional and independent inqiries into 9/11

Why did he do that? Surely that is the logical course of action?

[Odin]

All Libertarians need to go to a mental hospital.

The 9/11 families are against Bush because of him protecting the Saudis.

[Whaleboy]

All Libertarians need to go to a mental hospital

Yeh, most genius's have had clinical depression at some point. Or is that just me....

The 9/11 families are against Bush because of him protecting the Saudis

The two of them we have heard from. And why would their views in that respect differ from other Americans? To be brutally blunt, its not like their views matter, or should matter, in determining foreign or domestic policy.

[Imran Siddiqui]

NeoCons are not the same as Rush limbaugh, and they certainly are not in the same class as the diplomat. They used 9/11 as an excuse, but I doubt they have the same ideas as dip. on the matter. In essence, they are trying to set about new ocnditions by which they can pre-empt the growth of new terror: that is the point of trying to install a pro-US system in Iraq which they think will lead to reform in the whole area. Where neo-cons (most of which grew up as liberals) and liberals is their view on what is the best method to get to reform, with neo-cons thinking force is a viable and mighty effective option.

Very nice, GePap

I hate when people mislabel me (and yes, I am considering myself more and more a NeoConservative these days).

[Odin]

I hate when people mislabel me (and yes, I am considering myself more and more a NeoConservative these days).

BURN HIM!!!

[GePap]

While I disagree with many of the underlying theorties that back neo-conservatism, to label them along with the real ...well, with less enlightened folks on the right is terribly incorrect, Anyone who tries to hande a Wolfie. like they do a Rush will fail, cause they do not know their enemy.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
(and yes, I am considering myself more and more a NeoConservative these days).

That's not too suprising.

[Imran Siddiqui]

BURN HIM!!!

Why, would you rather I be a paleo-conservative (not a job, btw, some do call themselves that) who simply advocates US interests and does not care about spreading democracy?

[DinoDoc]

I don't think that they are called paleo-conservatives Imran.

[Odin]

Neo-cons are evil, self-serving, intelectual ideologes.

Irman, Neos don't give a sh!t about democracy.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's what plenty of them refer to themselves, even a Northwestern Law Professor speaker that the Federalist Society had, perfered the term paleo-conservative.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Perhaps Odin keeps saying it to try to prove to himself that it is true .

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Perhaps Odin keeps saying it to try to prove to himself that it is true .

Pehaps it is true