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  • #16
    Originally posted by mrmitchell
    Yes. I think Europe would make a fine state. But how would we work the 51th star into the flag?
    I think the design already exists.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by PLATO


      You know Sava, I read this reply and thought "that is exactly how I feel". Then I looked at who posted it. Once again I find us in agreement. Am I becoming more liberal or are you becoming more conservative?
      I agree also with this viewpoint. And I think it is a more conservative view.
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      • #18
        I support it IF it doesn't become and extension of France or Germany. A united Europe, yes. A Europe in which those two countries control all the others... no thanks.
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        • #19
          I'm am an american and i'm all for a united europe, i think it'd be a good thing for the world, plus far easier on tourists

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          • #20
            no way
            CSPA

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            • #21
              or, sure, as long as I don't have to live in it
              CSPA

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              • #23
                The world needs another superpower to protect it from the Americans. Sadly, even a United Europe won't fill this need, since it's afraid of war (with good reason).

                Guess it's up to China.
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                • #24
                  I voted "no (I'm none of the above)", even though this was probably meant for people in another continent, because Ireland isn't in Continental Europe, and we're not in Britain either. So I picked the best fit, yet our precarious geographical position it seems has not been considered in yet another Apolyton poll.

                  To more serious matters. I'm completely against any further political integration in Europe. The EEC was founded originally to be a trade organization, and I believe it should stay that way. Ireland would lose out if there were further integration - as it is we have a greater amount of power than we should have if dictated by our population relative to other European countries. If the EU were to become more democratic, we would lose this. I don't like the idea of a common European constitution superceding our own, or having to get in line when Brussels says so.

                  By all means, let's use a common currency and forge closer economic links, but let's try and keep our independence. Ireland had to fight hard for it, and I certainly don't believe something obtained at such a dear price should be surrendered.
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                  • #25
                    as long as we're not part of it, i don't mind.
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                    • #26
                      No.

                      "The world needs another superpower to protect it from the Americans"

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                      • #27
                        You'll be calling yourself patriotic next.
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                        • #28
                          Originally posted by OliverFA
                          I support it IF it doesn't become and extension of France or Germany. A united Europe, yes. A Europe in which those two countries control all the others... no thanks.
                          Don´t worry,
                          it won´t be Germany which will control Europe.

                          After all, despite we are the nation that pays most of the money for the European Union, we aren´t the ones which have the most (or at least a lot of) Control. There are other States which control the EU and France is one of them

                          Hey, german isn´t even one of the administrative Languages
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                          • #29
                            A year ago I would have voted yes. Now I'm sure I don't want such a state, at least not now. Perhaps in 50 years, and hopefully by this time I'm dead.

                            No, continental Europe.

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                            • #30
                              Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                              A year ago I would have voted yes. Now I'm sure I don't want such a state, at least not now.
                              What changed?
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