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and yet they single out a specific ethnic group for this law?
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Palestinian is not an ethnic group, it is a nationality."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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a nationality?! and what nation do these palestinians belong to? i see no nation called Palestine on the map!"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
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There was no nation of Korea on the map in 1940, but there were people of Korean nationality.Originally posted by Albert Speer
a nationality?! and what nation do these palestinians belong to? i see no nation called Palestine on the map!"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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JW:
first of all... Korea was its own nation before and was its own nation for severl centuries... secondly, korean is an ethnicity..."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
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and this does not address the obvious immoral action the UN did in 1947 in chartering a racialized/religionized state... sure sweden is basically a country of swedes only but it has been so for centuries and there's no way to address that now... but i would have hoped that in 1947, the UN and the world was enlightened enough to not create a 'jewish homeland' and smack the star of david on its flag... why the hell could it not be the country of Levant where people of all faiths and ethnicities were represented?"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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The purpose of my previous post was to prove that a country is not required for a nationality to exist, not to say that Korean is not an ethnicity."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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Anyway, back to the initial debate:
Suppose an ethnic Japanese person and an ethnic Arab both were Palestinian. Does that mean that they are both from the same ethnic group?"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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they couldn't possibly be Palestinian because there is no such country as palestine!
alright let's say an ethnic Japanese person and an ethnic Arab both were balawombangoan... does that mean they are both from the same ethnic group?"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
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Hmm, in Britain, Canada, the US, and many other places, they simply locked up alien nationals of countries at war with them/us, regardless of who they were married to. When the chips were down, that is.
It can be taken too far, but it is not an unwise thing to do as a general principle. Christ, terrorist bombs were not even going off. It was simply worried that something would go off.
This is no such thing. It is a very sensible statement that potentially hostile nationals will not be granted citizenship due to marriage. Duh!(\__/)
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Nope. Replace balawombangoan with Palestinian and you have the same answer."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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I don't see anything wrong with this. The American government is racially profiling Arabs right now at airports because, let's face it, the average Arab is a whole lot more likely to be an al-Qaeda member than the average non-Arab (even if that is still limited to one in a million Arabs as compared to one in ten million others, or whatever small number the real statistic is). Likewise, the Israeli government recognizes that Palestinians have a much greater chance of being suicide bombers than anyone else, and are recognizing that fact.
Is this racism? Yes, of course it is, but let's not get all crazy by attaching connotations to the word that it doesn't deserve in this instance. The problem with racism in the classic American South style is that it is judging someone by a criterion that doesn't make any sense (such as skin color and moral character). If racism is used in an instance where it does make sense (such as a group of people who generally hate Israel and contain numerous organizations dedicated to bombing Israel being more likely to bomb Israel) then that particular problem with it goes away. Of course, one still has to consider whether the grief that it causes the Palestinians is greater than the amount it benefits the Israelis, but considering that it's probably going to save Israeli lives and the Palestinians can end the problem at any time by not GOING AND TRYING TO KILL ISRAELIS EVERY CHANCE THEY GET I don't think that will be a problem.
Trying to tag people as "racist" every time they discriminate on basis of race during extenuating circumstances like these is no more logical than trying to tag people as "murderer" if they kill someone in extenuating circumstances like self-defense or war."Although I may disagree with what you say, I will defend to the death your right to hear me tell you how wrong you are."Comment
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Siro, I believe that CNN admits that its reports from the Middle East are biased pro Arab because without this pro Arab biased they would not be given access to Arab régimes.
Stop watching CNN. Watch FOX or MSNBC.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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Originally posted by Ned
Stop watching CNN. Watch FOX or MSNBC.
BILL O'RIELLY: On todays talking point, we'll talk about how the Glorious State of Israel is preventing evil Palestinians from getting citizenship through their "Marriage" law...
JOE SCARBOROUGH: On todays real deal, we'll talk about how the VERY Glorious State of Israel is preventing VERY evil Palestinians from getting citizenship through their "Marriage" law...
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Uh how is this not a racist law Siro? You're essentially treating Israeli Arabs as 2nd class citizens.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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