Replace the constitution :rolleyes:

[David Floyd]

Those are also my major points. I'd like to see a constitution that leaves a lot less up for interpretation.

I agree. I'd also like to see a Constitution that is MUCH more difficult to change. This would eliminate silly amendments such as Prohibition.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by David Floyd


I agree. I'd also like to see a Constitution that is MUCH more difficult to change. This would eliminate silly amendments such as Prohibition.

Or silly amendments that abolished slavery?

[Victor Galis]

Originally posted by David Floyd


I agree. I'd also like to see a Constitution that is MUCH more difficult to change. This would eliminate silly amendments such as Prohibition.

I can't see how the constitution could get any harder to change. I don't think majorities in 3/4th of the states could be counted on to agree to much. This is another thing that I find stupid. I could live with 75% or 80% of the population, but 3/4ths of the states? I understand where that came from, but the reality of the 21st century is so different from the 18th.

[David Floyd]

Not at all, MrFun. The point is that we need to create a Constitution that puts individual rights above everything else - that is, guarantees their inalienability. Then, make the Constitution itself unchangeable, for all intents and purposes. That leaves you with a free system that can't be changed.

[David Floyd]

Victor -

My point is that even if 75% of the states want to ban alcohol, they still shouldn't be able to.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Not at all, MrFun. The point is that we need to create a Constitution that puts individual rights above everything else - that is, guarantees their inalienability. Then, make the Constitution itself unchangeable, for all intents and purposes. That leaves you with a free system that can't be changed.

A good, stable government is dynamic, one that can change over time. A stagnant government is bound to fall sooner or later.

[Imran Siddiqui]

States have powers as well, Galis .

This isn't a country that was founded as a whole and then broken up. It was founded by seperate entities (states) which joined together. Of course they should have strong power over the government. They created it!

It is like the EU... of course the European countries should have power over the body, because they made it.

[Boris Godunov]

EDIT: nm, misread.

There's a lot I'd like to see changed in the Constitution, but a lot I like enough the way it is, and since a rewrite could potentially make things a lot worse, I'd vote for keeping it.

[Victor Galis]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
States have powers as well, Galis .

This isn't a country that was founded as a whole and then broken up. It was founded by seperate entities (states) which joined together. Of course they should have strong power over the government. They created it!

Giving states power makes some people's votes worth less than others.

[David Floyd]

A good, stable government is dynamic, one that can change over time. A stagnant government is bound to fall sooner or later.

A stagnant government? I'm simply setting up a government that can't infringe on freedom. This fact alone doesn't mean the government is in any way unstable.

[David Floyd]

On the subject of States Rights, I strongly support the right of secession. On the other hand, I don't believe that any state has the right to infringe on individual freedom any more than the feds do.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by David Floyd


A stagnant government? I'm simply setting up a government that can't infringe on freedom. This fact alone doesn't mean the government is in any way unstable.

Unfortunately for you, I have this perception that libertarians want "tyranny of the majority" in the name of absolute, unbridled freedom.

[Victor Galis]

Originally posted by David Floyd


A stagnant government? I'm simply setting up a government that can't infringe on freedom. This fact alone doesn't mean the government is in any way unstable.

That's not what stagnant means.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Giving states power makes some people's votes worth less than others.

Giving countries power makes some people's votes worth less than others.

[Wittlich]

Here here Boris! That's exactly what I was thinking.