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**Dom Pedro II** · July 31, 2003, 14:40

Even if I was going to use some B.S. qualification to uphold the man's claims that its a legitimate divorce, I think I would still turn him down on the basis of cowardice... c'mon now! He doesn't even have the guts to tell her to her face?

And yes, while it is true that women get next to nothing in divorces in Muslim cultures (some anyway) before the wedding, they usually by many thousands of dollars worth of jewelry to support them in the event that they are divorced.

**Victor Galis** · July 31, 2003, 14:43

Now, IIRC under Sharia law, to legally divorce his wife, a man just has to tell her three times that he divorces her. Does it matter if it's verbally or through a text message? (No, I don't agree with the practice, but what's wrong with the ruling?)

**Dom Pedro II** · July 31, 2003, 14:46

Well, I think if a man doesn't have the cajones to tell his wife that and risk the rolling pin to the skull, I don't think it should count.

And in a Muslim society, where obviously machismo is pretty damn important, I can't believe the judge would hear it.

I'm just surprised is all.

**Dinner** · July 31, 2003, 14:48

Originally posted by Victor Galis
Now, IIRC under Sharia law, to legally divorce his wife, a man just has to tell her three times that he divorces her. Does it matter if it's verbally or through a text message? (No, I don't agree with the practice, but what's wrong with the ruling?)

Normally one of the three times must be witnessed by a muslim cleric. I'm not sure how the Maylasian Islamic court justified their position other then just being male chauvanist pigs.

**Japher** · July 31, 2003, 14:51

Women's groups say they will protest the ruling and are demanding the government officially seporate religion from state proceedings.

Wow! If they do it would nice to see a country actually separate church from state and not just say they do!

The only problem I see with text messaging it is that you can't be certain that she saw it, and if she never gets the message than he is still married to her. All she needs to do is deny that she ever saw the last "I divorce U" come over, wait for the guy to screw some other girl, then stone him to death... hey that would be fun

Still, it is a bad way to break up

**st_swithin** · July 31, 2003, 14:52

How does the wife divorce the husband? Oh wait, let me guess: she doesn't get a choice because she's still considered 'property', right?

Yep, Islam, America - same place, different name.

**Dom Pedro II** · July 31, 2003, 14:53

Islam is in serious need of a Martin Luther... Sharia Law is only PARTLY based on the Q'uran. Sadly, there is so much that has been laid down as law by clerics who had their own interpretation of things...

I would say that Judaism is in need for some house cleaning too.

How can you accept the word of some other person as the word of God when they openly admit that he has not spoken to them personally? And if they do admit that, would you really want to follow them anyway?

The Q'uran has some very fine points that have been interpretted in VERY bad ways. I have not seen a single Muslim reformer step up to the plate who has any interest in getting back to scripture and dumping the excess dogma.

**Japher** · July 31, 2003, 14:54

st_swithin; who "owns" you?

**Dinner** · July 31, 2003, 14:54

I imagine because the muslim zeolots would try to kill him if he did.

**Dom Pedro II** · July 31, 2003, 15:00

A sad fact, Oerdin, yes. But until that happens, the Middle East cannot progress... that is unless the secular pockets of resistance overwhelm the zealots... and in a lot of cases, the zealots are just louder, not more numerous.

**st_swithin** · July 31, 2003, 15:06

Apparently my 'husband' does, until he decides that I'm REALLY serious about getting a divorce - , forms filed and signed papers notwithstanding, he still keeps asking me if I'm SURE I want a divorce. Am I POSITIVE? Absolutely POSITIVE? Absotively, posolutely SURE this time?

No, actually, the fact that I've told him that I don't love him, I NEVER will love him, I can't stand him, and I keep trying to commit suicide every time he asks me if I'm SURE I want a divorce - yeah, sure, maybe I'll change my mind. It's a good thing he listens so well.

So far, I'm up to 9 really good 'hesitation scars' from when my 'cry for help and attention' got him to 'pay attention to me' and each time he's bought me some flowers. He thinks the cat scratched me. He's convinced that the cat's claws are made of cold-forged, razor-sharp steel, and that it's common to get stitches for 'hesitation marks,' particularly during episodes of PMS.

Yep, good old menstruation - the one sure way to be reminded that you're slowly dying, a little bit at a time.

Hey guys, if you wanna impress the girls, the next time they act '*****y,' 'unreasonable' or 'irrational,' accuse them of being 'on the rag' or 'riding the crimson wave' - that'll get 'em to SWOON.

"Oh, I never even thought of that with my pretty, empty, air-filled little head! OOOooo, you're SO SMART and WISE! And you're so STRONG and BRAVE and TALENTED!! I'm SOOOOooo lucky to have you to tell me how I feel and what I think!" - st_swithin, in response to the above.

Us girls LOVE it when men are so accurate and incisive.

And guys wonder why I always just say that I'm a lesbian - yeah, right, I was born on the Island of Lesbos, just like Michael Chiklis.

**Dinner** · July 31, 2003, 15:08

I'm starting to worry about you swithin...v

**Dom Pedro II** · July 31, 2003, 15:09

...

Wow....

I feel as though I ought to be apologizing for us.

**Velociryx** · July 31, 2003, 15:12

Worry hell, I think I just fell in love....

-=Vel=-

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In Islam you can divorce your wife by text message.

In Islam you can divorce your wife by text message.

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