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    I'll tell you, I'm getting tired of this guy. He reminds me of Bill Clinton, which is ironic because I thought the chasm between them wrt honesty was vast. It was truly pathetic seeing this clown wear that smirk while telling us how he "takes responsibility".


    seeing this in another thread, posted by berzerker, has finally made me feel a lot better about myself. i don't feel so alone anymore.
    now, berzerker isn't as close to me in this thought, but.

    bush and clinton are two sides of the same coin. you rs and ds might not like hearing that, but they are.
    both are photogenic and charismatic leaders who know how to pander to their own constituencies to an amazing extent and to the exclusion of everyone else.
    both are extraordinary fundraisers, capable of having sponsors drop megabucks for the candidates that they bless.
    both are hated by their ideological enemies, yet both often coopt the other side's initiatives.
    both of them have grave issues with being truthful or honest towards the american public at large.

    i hate them both. not because i dislike them, individually. i hate them because of the politics that they help create, and engender: partisan politics of such aggressive nature that they allow for fringe viewpoints and sensationalist to dominate the media's coverage.
    i hate the fact that their supporters are blinded to the merits of the other side and to the problems their side has, and that by and large, political discussion has collapsed into two main lines, both party lines, and neither being very good ones, either.
    i hate it that this mockery of what democracy and the high ideals american politics are what respresent us today: whores that hew to the party line, braindead children who no more think for themselves than the crud that sticks to the bottom of your shoe after you've walked through a pasture.

    we have this problem of both political parties so coopted by fringe and special interests that neither probably speak very well for the vast, and disillusioned moderate majority.
    it's devolved from a debate of ideals to an unceasing noise-making argument that does nothing for the people of the country other than exacerbating bad situations.
    the american two-party system is dead. rather than being the sapling from which the tree of democracy springs, it has become a weed that chokes off any true seed of reform and spreads its noxious presence to all things american, from the wasteland that now passes for "art" to the tragicomedy of what is termed "equal opportunity".

    it makes me sick that so many party hacks believe that the answer to repairing things lies with their party's solution and that the opposition's plan will do nothing but bring doom. and all the while during their cockfighting, the problem gets worse: look at the joke of american public education, of american security, of social security...
    the true solution is never with the ideologues. it is on the middle path; only though moderation--and the answers of the moderates, who probably make up most of the voting populace, who are willing to work with both sides, can anything good come out of this disaster again.
    B♭3

  • #2
    What a new slant in Bush-bashing.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • #3
      Vote Libertarian!
      "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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      • #4
        take what you want of it, sloww.

        american politics ever since the end of the first bush era has been a joke and a humiliation.
        B♭3

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        • #5
          There's nothing new under the sun about Bush and Clinton.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #6
            the proof is the statements Clinton made a week ago on Larry King.

            Clinton supports the Iraq war, and did believe there were WOMD there when he was president. He even said so when he bombed them in 1998.

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            • #7
              Clinton is more centrist than Bush is... Bush is far-right... Clinton is center... maybe a tad left... but hardly a leftist/liberal/progressive.

              But I agree... they are more of the same **** different day.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #8
                Bush? Far right? You don't know what far right is.
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                • #9
                  Bush? Far right? You don't know what far right is.
                  Considering you don't even live in the US far right =! Hitler... that's "ultra-right".
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10
                    So Sava why do you complain when Bush disposes of a far-right leader such as Saddam Hussein, thus saving the lives of thousands of Iraqis?
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                    • #11
                      So Sava why do you complain when Bush disposes of a far-right leader such as Saddam Hussein, thus saving the lives of thousands of Iraqis?
                      there aren't two political ideologies in the world

                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #12
                        I never saw Bush as charismatic... I thought Clinton was very charismatic.

                        I don't like either one of them.
                        Dom Pedro II - 2nd and last Emperor of the Empire of Brazil (1831 - 1889).

                        I truly believe that America is the world's second chance. I only hope we get a third...

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                        • #13
                          Bush definately isn't charismatic. But he does strike a chord with americans. Esp. his reaction after 9/11. You could see his anger, and you know he wanted to inflict some vengeance.

                          While that probably isn't an appropiate thing for a president, many americans related to that. hence his high popularity ratings after 9/11

                          But Bush has had only 8 press conferences since taking office! His father had like 100. Clinton had like 60 press conferences.

                          The fact that Bush doesn't explain what he's doing to the public bothers me.

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                          • #14
                            That's very odd considering I feel like I see his face EVERYWHERE.
                            Dom Pedro II - 2nd and last Emperor of the Empire of Brazil (1831 - 1889).

                            I truly believe that America is the world's second chance. I only hope we get a third...

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                            • #15
                              A militant moderate? That's positively oxymoronic!
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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