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  • #46
    We could, but he's so damn entertaining when you yourself isn't his victim.

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    • #47
      Good point
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      • #48
        Fez calm down. Just ignore people when they assualt you.
        Fez' name wasn't mentioned by anyone in this thread until he jumped in to announce how we were all liars.

        We could, but he's so damn entertaining when you yourself isn't his victim.
        That's like saying the wet paper bag preventing Fez from escaping is a victim of assault.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by SlowwHand
          Brits are standing behind their intelligence, Berz.
          And that magically makes it true?
          "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
          -Joan Robinson

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          • #50
            want to distract the country from combating terrorism
            -If you want to accuse anyone of distracting the country from combating terrorism, perhaps you start with those who plotted the invasion of Iraq.

            You are nothing more than a liar... please get off the political bias, and start realizing reality. I am tired of demoncrats endangering democracy.
            -But if your fascist buddies trample all over it, it's ok though, right?
            "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Victor Galis


              -If you want to accuse anyone of distracting the country from combating terrorism, perhaps you start with those who plotted the invasion of Iraq.
              Actually I am going to accuse those who were against the war, as they are against national security and the interests of democracy. They want to see America suffer at the hands of a dictator. You want to see that.

              -But if your fascist buddies trample all over it, it's ok though, right?
              I am not fascist, you narrow minded senseless, anti-democratic and anti-american person.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Fez
                Actually I am going to accuse those who were against the war, as they are against national security
                Iraq posed no threat to the US; however, wasting the military's time toppling the Saddam government was a collossal waste of time and energy and also generated ill-will that will hamper the fight against terrorists.

                and the interests of democracy.
                What does the war in Iraq have to do with Democracy?

                They want to see America suffer at the hands of a dictator. You want to see that.
                I thought I made it quite clear that I do not support Generalissimo Bush or his policies
                "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
                -Joan Robinson

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Victor Galis


                  Iraq posed no threat to the US; however, wasting the military's time toppling the Saddam government was a collossal waste of time and energy and also generated ill-will that will hamper the fight against terrorists.
                  Actually the US liberated the Iraqi people, the Iraqi regime had weapons of mass destruction it most likely destroyed or got rid of, and was a threat to the its neighbors, Israel and others. So you are wrong.

                  What does the war in Iraq have to do with Democracy?
                  If you are against the war, which liberated the Iraqi people, you are against democracy and human rights.

                  I thought I made it quite clear that I do not support Generalissimo Bush or his policies
                  The only side with dictator like policies around here is the left, which loves Saddam Hussein.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Fez
                    Actually the US liberated the Iraqi people,
                    Some liberation. They still haven't replaced the Saddam government with something better. Do you honestly think they will allow your precious democracy if some Islamist party wins the elections?


                    the Iraqi regime had weapons of mass destruction it most likely destroyed or got rid of, and was a threat to the its neighbors, Israel and others.
                    So let me get this straight... while it was fighting for life and death, with little to nothing to lose, the Iraqi government chose to destroy its weapons rather than use them And you claim it would have used them in any other situation where its survival was not on the line


                    If you are against the war, which liberated the Iraqi people, you are against democracy and human rights.
                    I am against the crimes committed in their names. Democracy imposed at bayonet point is not real democracy.
                    "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
                    -Joan Robinson

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Victor Galis


                      Some liberation. They still haven't replaced the Saddam government with something better. Do you honestly think they will allow your precious democracy if some Islamist party wins the elections?
                      Yes they have. If a Islamist wins, we will just have to go the Tunisian route. A secular state, but where rights are respected of everybody except islamist fundamentalists. At least the country is developed.

                      So let me get this straight... while it was fighting for life and death, with little to nothing to lose, the Iraqi government chose to destroy its weapons rather than use them
                      I think Saddam didn't want the whole world to turn against him. And liberals like you to turn against him. Your have a love affair for his policies of massacres, such as rape, used against women and freedom wanting people.

                      Democracy imposed at bayonet point is not real democracy.
                      So why are you against the war? Hey you are right. Saddam did have an election. Everybody had to vote yes or their families would die. Some democracy... based on your own ideas.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #56
                        So very interesting Fez. Could you please inform me what the difference is between;

                        a)
                        Originally posted by Fez
                        A secular state, but where rights are respected of everybody except islamist fundamentalists.
                        and b)
                        Everybody had to vote yes or their families would die. Some democracy... based on your own ideas.
                        So b) is outright wrong, but a) is just fine?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Kropotkin
                          So very interesting Fez. Could you please inform me what the difference is between;

                          a)

                          and b)


                          So b) is outright wrong, but a) is just fine?
                          If necessary a state like Tunisia will have to be instated. Not a problem. A is not like option B. You can have a democratic dictatorship like that of Tunisia, or you can have a bloodthirsty one like Saddam Hussein.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #58
                            Democratic dictatorship eh? I'd say there's a limitit to how far you can change words without changing their meanings.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Kropotkin
                              Democratic dictatorship eh? I'd say there's a limitit to how far you can change words without changing their meanings.
                              Tunisia isn't around launching invasions on other countries, nor have they went around releasing chemical/bio gasses on its people. Tunisia is a land that is a model for the Arab world. As is the United Arab Emirates. If any thing Iraq should go down the path of the UAE.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #60
                                So what does that response have to do with my post?

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