Will it be possible to hijack a plane in the U.S. after 9/11?

[Dom Pedro II]

Azazel, in the case of terrorists in Palestine, the goal there was to wear down your resistance. Thats why its relatively small attacks in rapid succession over a long period of time.

In the case of 9/11 it was different... Terrorists are not stupid... they are clever psychologists and particularly Al-Queda and its associate groups. They certainly know what happened in 1941 when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.... America went to war and went to war HARD.

That was the intention... terrorists are not so much interested in the act itself... its the REACTION. They knew that if they hit us, that we'd hit back, and if we did they were hoping the Muslim populations would be outraged. 9/11 was an effort to mobilize the Muslim people against us, not to break our spirit as so many have claimed...

It did, to some degree fail... they were expecting B-52s to napalm Afghanistan off the map... but instead Bush (and wisely so as much as I hate to admit it) took a more.... cautious strategy.

In a sense, Al-Queda was offering its entire organization as one big suicide attacker... that in the wake of its obliteration would arise a new Muslim will... they were wrong.

[Lord Merciless]

Al-Qaeda got their butt kicked after 9/11: Afghanistan lost, half their leadership dead, and Arab people sucking up ever more to the West. Are these what they had intended?

Airplane hijacking is always possible, just a few ways:
- The armed pilot is an Al-Qaeda member.
- The hijacked plane is a cargo plane. (No passengers to fight against)
- The hijacked plane is a foreign airliner arriving in the US. (especially Canadian ones)
- They use their own planes.
- They join forces with US domestic terrorists.

Besides airline hijackings, how about trucks and ships carrying dangerous load?

[Dom Pedro II]

It may not be what they intended, but 9/11 Round 2 won't change the results...

[yavoon]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
even in the wake of 9/11, hijackings will always be possible.

they're a good deal less likely, not so much because of airport security measures (which, by and large, are there to make you feel better rather than actually providing air security), but because of new regulations coupled with increased numbers of air marshals and more passenger awareness.

however, it is always possible, even if fez and yavoon say it's not. until recently, we had blind spots in baggage screening, for instance. where there's a will, there is a way, and only constant vigilance will prevent hijacker's success.

umm dont lump me in w/ fez. I said that they increased the controls on getting into the cockpit. jesus. and its very easy to simply say "well anything is possible." thats not all that astounding of a position.

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
It may not be what they intended, but 9/11 Round 2 won't change the results...

I think Al-Qaeda and Talibans are more like the Chinese Boxers: a last hurrah of extremists of an ancient culture.

[Sava]

Sava, is that information classified, or why it hasn't been told , or is it some leftist propaganda?

It has been told. Read a book!

[Q Classic]

it's far more than "anything is possible".

to hijack a plane, all it takes is carelessness on the part of the crew, or the passengers. american memories are short; we tend to like our conveniences. i don't doubt that some time in the relatively near future, our security will be lessened simply because we've decided that we're safe again...

even now, going through the security, there are numerous ways to get weapons by the guards. future terrorists with plans like mohammed atta could conceivably have their bags matched to them, have round trip tickets, have a valid passport and could have purchased their tickets well in advanced, bypassing much of what we're checking.
it's a simple matter of them striking when we are not vigilant, and instead of using metal blades, who knows what they could use? extremely flammable alcohol in wine bottles, and turning them into molotov cocktails en route, for instance.

can we prevent that? can we?

[yavoon]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
it's far more than "anything is possible".

to hijack a plane, all it takes is carelessness on the part of the crew, or the passengers. american memories are short; we tend to like our conveniences. i don't doubt that some time in the relatively near future, our security will be lessened simply because we've decided that we're safe again...

even now, going through the security, there are numerous ways to get weapons by the guards. future terrorists with plans like mohammed atta could conceivably have their bags matched to them, have round trip tickets, have a valid passport and could have purchased their tickets well in advanced, bypassing much of what we're checking.
it's a simple matter of them striking when we are not vigilant, and instead of using metal blades, who knows what they could use? extremely flammable alcohol in wine bottles, and turning them into molotov cocktails en route, for instance.

can we prevent that? can we?

well if u r really responding to me. then I don't know how any of that gets them into the cockpit. but if u r generalizing. yes its very hard to stop ppl from blowing **** up.

[Q Classic]

well if u r really responding to me. then I don't know how any of that gets them into the cockpit. but if u r generalizing. yes its very hard to stop ppl from blowing **** up.

it doesn't need to get into the cockpit. if it's anything like the fluid used in the recent daegu subway disaster, it could easily flash-fry most of the people aboard, as well as damage the plane itself.

[yavoon]

Originally posted by Q Cubed

well if u r really responding to me. then I don't know how any of that gets them into the cockpit. but if u r generalizing. yes its very hard to stop ppl from blowing **** up.

it doesn't need to get into the cockpit. if it's anything like the fluid used in the recent daegu subway disaster, it could easily flash-fry most of the people aboard, as well as damage the plane itself.

that still wouldn't lead to a 9-11. there's better ways to kill a few hundred ppl if u already have the means. then to try and sneak those means onto an airplane.

[Dis]

As for that Pennsylvania flight.

If it was shot down it would have landed more horizontally and not vertically.

The plane disintigrated. The plane was going straight down when it hit.

[Q Classic]

that still wouldn't lead to a 9-11. there's better ways to kill a few hundred ppl if u already have the means. then to try and sneak those means onto an airplane.

a terrorist attack does not have to be a 9-11. burn the cabin, and one can force a way into the cockpit. or burn the cockpit, and take the plane down.
you and fez were both saying it would be impossible to hijack a plane in the wake of 9-11, and the simple fact of the matter is that it's not impossible.
only by keeping vigilant will we be able to prevent future disasters.