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The states have no business regulating contracts?
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Thats right, as long as the contract is consensual."Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini -
Why? I find it refreshing to see a pol refuse to do something he has no power to do in the first place.Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
ok i must now say that everbody that says:' bush
' or something like that in this thread (or any other) is a god damn ********* ***** *** ****** ***** ****! 
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Except for minor things like the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.Why is it his job to intrude on what is essentially a state matter?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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because marriage is something between two people who love each other...it is not a church thing or something like that...it is just a union (reinforced by law) between two people...who cares if it is two guys or two girls?Bunnies!
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I think anybody that has read and lives by Leviticus 18 cares...
But unless you are an orthodox Jew that follows Mosaic law you might not have a care...Comment
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That still doesn't change the fact that the 50 governors have more say in what people were asking Bush to do, unless of course you actually believe that the Federal government was well within its rights to pass the Defense of Marriage Act.Originally posted by Ramo
Except for minor things like the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Shrub has a responsibility to enforce the Constitution. That includes the equal protection clause of the 14th. That doesn't happen with the Defense of Marriage Act. That doesn't happen with leaving everything up to the states."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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The difference between us is that I believe that he is doing just that by keeping his nose out of it. If you want gay marriage, the states are the correct venue to seek redress.Originally posted by Ramo
Shrub has a responsibility to enforce the Constitution.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Why? Why shouldn't the equal protection clause apply to marriage?
If Mississippi said that interracial marriages are illegal, do you think that the feds shouldn't do a thing?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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What Bush says in the bold line means something like:
"I say that gay-people aren't bigger / smaller sinners than anybody else thus I want to make sure that nobody should judge gay people on their sins since we are all sinners"
I think nobody but orthodox christians / jews can be against that. I don't see how any pro-gay mariage can hate that line. But that's pherhaps because it's biblical language people don't understand.
ok i must now say that everbody that says:' bush ' or something like that in this thread (or any other) is a god damn ********* ***** *** ****** ***** ****!
I'm happy to see that you don't care about the most important values of democracy.
Everybody can have an opinion and the opinion of the majorigy rules.
I am against gay-mariage myself, not because it's against my believe (I am a christian) but because I think it's plain stupid to alter the tradition of mariage that has lasted for millenia just in a few years.
Why can't we have mariage for man and woman, as it has been all those years?
What's the problem for gays to have a different way of living together?
Why does it all have to be the same?
Equality doesn't equal "being exactly the same".
But I guess nobody wants to listen to that in this "I demand my rights" obsessed world.Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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Why should they listen when it is they who are being denied hospital visitations, inheritences, adoptions, spousal benefits, funerary planning rights, etc?Originally posted by CyberShy
What's the problem for gays to have a different way of living together?
Why does it all have to be the same?
Equality doesn't equal "being exactly the same".
But I guess nobody wants to listen to that in this "I demand my rights" obsessed world.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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I'm happy to see that you don't care about the most important values of democracy.
Everybody can have an opinion and the opinion of the majorigy rules.
well CS....i believe that people can think and say what they think...but i believe they are wrong...
What's the problem for gays to have a different way of living together?
Why does it all have to be the same?
Equality doesn't equal "being exactly the same".
what is wrong with two guys or two girls to get marriage just like other people do? you look at it one way and i look at it the other wayBunnies!
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'Space05us is just a stupid nice guy' - Space05usComment
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Yes, since much of the US prohibited interracial marriages for much of the country's history, I think we should bring back this prohibition. This isn't about hatred of minorities, it's just an expression of my love for history and tradition.
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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So what profanity has nine letters anyway?*********Comment
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BAD... VERY BAD.Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
ok i must now say that everbody that says:' bush' or something like that in this thread (or any other) is a god damn ********* ***** *** ****** ***** ****!
Let's keep civil folks...
And DeathbyTheSword... I recommend you check your PM's... Quickly... because the clock is ticking...Last edited by Ming; July 30, 2003, 17:36.Keep on Civin'
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