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  • Are some people just destined to fail?

    I'm revealing something very personal, so I hope you don't bash me or take advantage of this in any way, or I'll have to hunt you down and terminate you.

    I was asking about my roots, because suddenly I felt a great interest about it. I never really cared, but now I do. I was a bit shocked what I found out. From my mothers side people are pretty succesful, having had high positions on good jobs. Few artists, actually two dancers in the early 1900's, one danced in Paris for some hot shot high class place, and one in... I forget but some other European dancing place, so few artists too.
    This was quite nice to find out. Even few cops! My grandfathers dad died fighting the illegal bootleggers during the prohibition. Sad story, however very interesting.

    But then to my fathers side... oh man every single man was a criminal of some sort and drunk bastards. Horrible stories most of them, and they have all ended in grave before their time was up. Either drank themselves to death, or some other unfortunate thing happened. Many of them has speant great deal of time in jail too, which is rare here (note: none of these dudes haven't been alive for decades). I've always wondered, why I'm so close to the family in my mothers side.. we're like a big close family. But to my fathers side.. never. And when they meet, they never talk about past times, never. I realized, that my dad hasn't told me much of his past.
    But I'm starting to understand... there were several brothers, and they had a very strict home and parents being very religional. I'm sorry if this is boring the hell out of you, stop reading if you don't care .

    But their daddy was a maniac drunk guy. I heard this from my mother, no one has ever talked about it. My father is one of the oldest, and when he was 19, they grouped and kicked the crap out of him, and drove him away from his own home. It was a serious thing, and it happened I THINK in the 50's, so it was a big deal to drive the master out of his own house and kick his ass seriously. But he was abusive drunk, dangerous individual who certainly made a negative impact to the whole family. Anyway, then to the brothers. Half of them are weird drunks with problems. Half of them don't even touch alcohol and have a good life now. My dad is in the sober group. He never was into alcohol, for reasons that you get. But then just today, I found out, that my only male cousin from my fathers side is in trouble. He's always been, but now he was arrested with a gun posession and several other serious things. He was messing with drugs too much and got himself into trouble. Then his dad died, when he fell head first when drunk. He was a total drunkard. So, the genes were no better with my cousin. I don't really know him, only seen him few times in my whole life. I was told though, that he'll be dead in few years if he continues, and no one is able to stop him. Even threatened few of my relatives lives when they tried to intervene, and he really meant it too.

    So, I guess this concludes my family introduction. So, how is it possible, that my other side (which I'm close with) is full of successful people, artists, cops etc? and other side is full of criminals and drunks? Are some folks just destined to fail and lose in the game called life?
    Also, few of these relatives from my fathers side has never met that I know of, or known each other at all, still drunk and criminal too. Maybe some of them were shooting the border ranger from my familiys other side. Would be kind of ironic.

    Crap this got long and uninteresting. Well, answer my question, and you can give some info on your roots and family info? I was genuinely wondering how this is possible!
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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    Enviornment
    :-p

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    • #3
      Familiar pride...

      People long to be accepted into the social standing of their peers, regardless of how good or bad it is. Thus, people will self destruct or people will be come stronger by breaking from those bonds.

      Don't be a sell-out!

      Why not?
      Monkey!!!

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      • #4
        inferior genetics.
        "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
        - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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        • #5
          inferior genetics.

          If that's true, you have a 50/50 chance of being screwed Pekka!
          Monkey!!!

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          • #6
            Neither environment nor heredity decides your success or failure.
            What it depends on is your heart and hard work.
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #7
              Also it was great to find out about it, because my dad never told me anything. I always wondered why he never said anything like 'i love you' or anything to me, never hugged, nothing. He had difficulties to say it to my mom even. I know he cares though, but he has great difficulties showing his emotions.. heh.. sounds like me! Though I'm not THAT bad with it. He never got any. The only thing he got was a fist in his face for his whole life for affection. So, now he is my true champion and hero. He came out of it, had a normal life and provided us very much, never hit me, never REALLY yell me.. yeah. A champion of life. Something no one in his family never did.
              In da butt.
              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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              • #8
                Neither environment or heredity decides your success or failure.
                What it depends on is your heart and hard work.
                And if a blind man just wants it hard enough, he can see.

                Yeah right.
                Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand
                  Neither environment or heredity decides your success or failure.
                  What it depends on is your heart and hard work.

                  HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
                  "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                  - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                  • #10
                    Sounds like he had to curb all emotions in order to not let the bad ones out...
                    Monkey!!!

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                    • #11
                      Japher, nah, I have 99% chance to win. I'm a winner already in m own mind. btw, I don't carry my fathers familys last name. My parents decided that when I was born. Kind of funny don't you think?

                      I think I got the good sides from both, or at least I'd like to think so. I have the business mind from my fathers side, and the morals from my mothers side, so I make my success legally. I got my gun totings from my dads side, but the backbone from my moms side, so I don't shoot innocent people . Basically, I'm a bad ass with brains!

                      .. or then I'm a drunk with dancing skills
                      In da butt.
                      "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                      THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                      "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SlowwHand
                        Neither environment or heredity decides your success or failure.
                        What it depends on is your heart and hard work.
                        Ur statement is somewhat correct to an extent, but that wasnt the question. The odds of all the relative in pekka's mother side being all successful based on their individual heart and hard work alone?

                        Lot less than enviornment.
                        :-p

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                        • #13
                          Japher, yeah indeed so. It's so hard, that he has never talked to me about it. Never. Nothing, nada, zip. Even to my mom he has only mentioned few things. The brothers.. they never talk about it, never ever. And they are either unstable drunks with bad habits and nasty personality, or stand up guys who work super hard.
                          In da butt.
                          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                          "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                          • #14


                            Im glad you know about your family's history now, Pekka.

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                            • #15
                              mix of genes and environment. a bit like gayness.

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