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yeah, not enough live coverage of tank battles
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Umm... you are right...Originally posted by Ecthelion
yeah, not enough live coverage of tank battles
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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That should be conforting to the Iraquis also... so much for "Iraqui Freedom" if the true intention is just deposing a regime and installing a new one giving not a rat's a s s about anything else... typical though, I couldn't expect less from such an elightened and benevolent nation under an idiot like Bush...Originally posted by TCO
The mission of helping the Afghans is secondary. But I'm glad we are doing it.
A true ally stabs you in the front.
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giving not a rat's a s s about anything else
A far cry from "secondary" to "not giving a rat's ass". Clean up your logic.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Tis your opinion and not anybody elses. I am expecting a leadership that respects the rights of everybody in Iraq. The only idiots were the opponents of the war.Originally posted by Master Zen
That should be conforting to the Iraquis also... so much for "Iraqui Freedom" if the true intention is just deposing a regime and installing a new one giving not a rat's a s s about anything else... typical though, I couldn't expect less from such an elightened and benevolent nation under an idiot like Bush...For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Yes then I'm sure governments spurt out propaganda and give names to their operations based on their 'secondary objectives'....Originally posted by DanS
giving not a rat's a s s about anything else
A far cry from "secondary" to "not giving a rat's ass". Clean up your logic.
A true ally stabs you in the front.
Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)Comment
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What you expect won't necessarily be what will happen. Or do you follow Fox News religiously too? Also, it hasn't been a year since the invasion and you're already calling the opponents of the war "idiots" when you don't even have the hindsight of history to prove it. Should history prove you wrong I'll be first one laughting...Originally posted by Fez
Tis your opinion and not anybody elses. I am expecting a leadership that respects the rights of everybody in Iraq. The only idiots were the opponents of the war.A true ally stabs you in the front.
Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)Comment
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we sure did a good job of nation building in mexico when we took it over
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sorry man i'm just kidding but i couldn't resist...We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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What you expect won't necessarily be what will happen.Originally posted by Master Zen
What you expect won't necessarily be what will happen. Or do you follow Fox News religiously too? Also, it hasn't been a year since the invasion and you're already calling the opponents of the war "idiots" when you don't even have the hindsight of history to prove it. Should history prove you wrong I'll be first one laughting...
Just repeating you too. It could go both ways, I am just hoping it will go my way. And as it looks, it will. Uday and Qusay are dead. Next stop Saddam.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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If nation-building is simply the killing of Uday, Qusay and (hopefully) Saddam, damn, I feel sorry for such short-sightedness.Originally posted by Fez
What you expect won't necessarily be what will happen.
Just repeating you too. It could go both ways, I am just hoping it will go my way. And as it looks, it will. Uday and Qusay are dead. Next stop Saddam.
I also hope that it will go my way: that nations will think first before acting unilateraly, imperialisticly, pre-emptively, etc. etc. Guess that just won't happen, not while Bushy is around.
A true ally stabs you in the front.
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Hey, hey, hey... those are just short term goals. Nation building requires more work than just killing three men.Originally posted by Master Zen
If nation-building is simply the killing of Uday, Qusay and (hopefully) Saddam, damn, I feel sorry for such short-sightedness.
Wrong, wrong, wrong! The United States did not act unilaterally. It did not act imperialistically but it did act pre-emptively. It acted in a coalition effort, consisting of 50+ nations. You are blinded by the lies the media has been feeding you.I also hope that it will go my way: that nations will think first before acting unilateraly, imperialisticly, pre-emptively, etc. etc. Guess that just won't happen, not while Bushy is around.
It most certainly is going my way because your blind predictions are unfeasible.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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50 nations!!!
Sure, then consider that the other 200 nations on earth were against it. Hmm... doesn't sound so overwhelming now doesn't it?
Pre-emption. Something that even Truman was against during the Cold War, now central to U.S. foreign policy because they are so aware of the problems they themselves are causing that there is a need to stop them before they occur. Great world this will be when the Indians attack Pakistan pre-emptively, when Russia attacks Chechnia pre-empitively, when North Korea, slaughters South Korea pre-emptively. My my, that's one world order we would all love to live in ain't it?
BTW, Japan "pre-emptively" attacked the US in 1941, does the Bush doctrine now justify it too?A true ally stabs you in the front.
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Your arrogance stuns me.Originally posted by Master Zen
50 nations!!!
Sure, then consider that the other 200 nations on earth were against it. Hmm... doesn't sound so overwhelming now doesn't it?
Go talk to me when you decide to open your eyes.
Blah blah blah blah.. do you have anything constructive to say besides criticizing others? Do you have anything useful to say besides blasting others for mistakes that have happened in the past?Pre-emption. Something that even Truman was against during the Cold War, now central to U.S. foreign policy because they are so aware of the problems they themselves are causing that there is a need to stop them before they occur. Great world this will be when the Indians attack Pakistan pre-emptively, when Russia attacks Chechnia pre-empitively, when North Korea, slaughters South Korea pre-emptively. My my, that's one world order we would all love to live in ain't it?
Japan attacked without reason. The US and Japan were in peace negoiations.BTW, Japan "pre-emptively" attacked the US in 1941, does the Bush doctrine now justify it too?
Again your arrogance shows.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Fez, do you actually have an argument?
"you are arrogant", "you are wrong", "you are an idiot"...
yeah, the cream of the crop in debating skills...
/me disappears from the OTFA true ally stabs you in the front.
Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)Comment
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Do you have a point?Originally posted by Master Zen
Fez, do you actually have an argument?
"you are arrogant", "you are wrong", "you are an idiot"...
yeah, the cream of the crop in debating skills...
* Master Zen disappears from the OTF
Good disappear. Run away.
That is what the underdogs do.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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