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  • The US hasn't forgotten Afghanistan

    I am sick and tired of suggestions the US has forgotten and now I got proof that the US has very well kept an open eye.



    By Vernon Loeb and Glenn Kessler
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Sunday, July 27, 2003; Page A01


    The Bush administration will soon propose a $1 billion aid package for Afghanistan aimed at bolstering the government of President Hamid Karzai and countering criticism that U.S. officials have lost interest in rebuilding the country as their focus has shifted to postwar Iraq, senior administration officials said yesterday.

    The $1 billion package, which more than triples the $300 million Afghanistan receives, represents new spending on Afghanistan and is designed to fund projects that can be completed within a year to have maximum impact on the lives of the Afghan people before scheduled elections in October 2004, the officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

    Among other things, the funds -- to be shifted from existing foreign and military aid accounts so as not to increase the deficit -- would go toward highway and school construction, other infrastructure initiatives, police training, beefed-up development of the Afghan national army, education projects and programs to help women enter the workforce, the officials said.

    Defense policy officials, who developed the aid proposal, reasoned that accelerating ongoing initiatives and packaging them with new development programs is justified, in light of annual U.S. expenditures in Afghanistan of about $10 billion, most of which supports a military presence of 9,000 troops.

    The $1 billion in aid resulted from "a comprehensive, strategic update on Afghanistan," said Douglas J. Feith, undersecretary of defense for policy, who confirmed accounts of the program provided by other officials but declined to provide further details.

    "We noted that there's a lot that we're spending in Afghanistan and there's a lot at stake strategically," Feith said. "And we asked ourselves are we investing enough, given the expense of everything that we're doing, the importance of success and the benefits, strategic and financial, of completing our mission there sooner rather than later."

    In a speech last October, President Bush noted that the United States and 60 other countries had pledged $4.5 billion in aid to Afghanistan over five years at a donors conference in Tokyo and said "America is delivering on our pledge; we're writing our checks. We're currently implementing more than $300 million worth of reconstruction and recovery projects."

    The administration hopes to hold another donor conference as part of the September meeting of the World Trade Organization in Cancun, Mexico, with the expectation that the new $1 billion aid package will inspire other countries to increase their contributions as well, one senior administration official said.

    As recently as May, Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage visited Kabul, the Afghan capital, and pledged that the United States remains committed to the reconstruction of Afghanistan, even as it pursues far larger postwar stability operations and reconstruction programs in Iraq.

    Despite such promised support, the security situation in Afghanistan remains fragile, and the reconstruction of the country, devastated by decades of war, remains agonizingly slow. Numerous aid organizations, policy analysts and lawmakers have faulted the administration for its limited reconstruction efforts.

    The administration, they argue, cannot adequately support Karzai's central government while maintaining de facto security agreements with a half dozen or more regional military commanders who maintain their own forces and often work to undermine Karzai's central authority.

    Remnants of the Taliban, which ruled Afghanistan until the United States and its allies toppled it in late 2001, continue to harass U.S. bases and patrols in Afghanistan, often from across the border in Pakistan.

    Afghanistan also remains the world's largest opium producer, with a growing drug trade and associated corruption threatening the country's reconstruction and clouding its ongoing debate over such basic issues as law and governance. The country is to hold a constitutional convention this fall, with elections planned for next year.

    Although Congress authorized $3.3 billion in financial and military assistance to Afghanistan in the fall of 2001, a relatively small part of that amount has been spent. Testifying in June before the House International Relations Committee, Barnett R. Rubin, former special adviser to the United Nations on Afghanistan, said that $200 million in construction projects have been completed.

    Rep. Henry J. Hyde (R-Ill.), the committee's chairman, commented a month earlier, during a hearing on postwar Iraq policy, that it "would be a horrendous mistake for us to invest the blood and treasure we have in getting rid of Saddam Hussein and then making the same mistake we made in Afghanistan, leaving the scene."

    At the same hearing, Rep. William D. Delahunt (D-Mass.), said that "it's been about a year and a half [since the war] in Afghanistan and President Karzai only has control, maybe, of Kabul, and we still have warlords all over that particular country. And I dare say that reconstruction in Afghanistan is a mess at this point."

    One senior defense official, who recently returned from Afghanistan, acknowledged that serious problems remain but said far greater progress has been made than most critics and many commentators acknowledge.

    "There's been tremendous progress in every field," the official said. "The doom and gloom in the media, both on Iraq and Afghanistan, is talked about by everyone who comes back. They say the coverage is incredibly negative. People in Afghanistan making bricks and repairing their houses is not news anymore."

    Training of the first 4,500 soldiers of the new Afghan army by U.S. military personnel has been "an incredible success story," the official said, explaining that Afghans who see the well-disciplined troops in action think they are Western peacekeepers and are elated to learn that they are native Afghan forces.


    Thumbs up to President Bush. Lets not forget about this country.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

  • #2
    I think taking it out the hands of fundamentalists and warlords would be a better step in the right direction.

    Ya gotta learn from your mistakes...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by red_jon
      I think taking it out the hands of fundamentalists and warlords would be a better step in the right direction.

      Ya gotta learn from your mistakes...
      That is what is happening. Read the last bolded section. 4,500 Afghan Army Troops trained so far, well disciplined too. Once more are trained the warlords will be removed by the Afghan troops.

      So I haven't disputed your claim. It will happen in due course.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #4
        But isn't the Northern Alliance in control? The current leaders are not democratic are they?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by red_jon
          But isn't the Northern Alliance in control? The current leaders are not democratic are they?
          Well Karzai only has Kabul, but with his growing professional army the warlords will cease to be a threat.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #6
            I'm not arguing Fez - I'm asking. Who is currently in power in the capital? Aren't they fundamentalists as well?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by red_jon
              I'm not arguing Fez - I'm asking. Who is currently in power in the capital? Aren't they fundamentalists as well?
              No they are not fundamentalists. Karzai controls the capital firmly. However he has little control outside and there are fundamentalists controlling other regions.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #8
                one stop at a time

                the warlords helped the Coalition whoop Taliban ass

                it's not so simple to just backstab them and tell them to get lost
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ted Striker
                  one stop at a time

                  the warlords helped the Coalition whoop Taliban ass

                  it's not so simple to just backstab them and tell them to get lost
                  Well if they have a 60,000 member Afghan Army approaching they will have to put down their guns. But the Afghan Army isn't at that step yet.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #10
                    Well I doubt a stable democracy is anywhere on the horizon.

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                    • #11
                      We accomplished our main objective. Anti-Al Queda warfare and anti-supporters of Al Queda warfare. Any other state contemplating supporting similar terror against us, will know that we will hunt them down and take them out of power.

                      The mission of helping the Afghans is secondary. But I'm glad we are doing it.

                      But we aready acheived victory in our main objective.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by red_jon
                        Well I doubt a stable democracy is anywhere on the horizon.
                        It isn't. But there will be elections.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TCO
                          Any other state contemplating supporting similar terror against us, will know that we will hunt them down and take them out of power.
                          Are you new to Earth?

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                          • #14
                            money is nice, but more should be done for security outside of Kabul. the city can't be held if you don't control the surrounding. get those hills!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ecthelion
                              money is nice, but more should be done for security outside of Kabul. the city can't be held if you don't control the surrounding. get those hills!
                              There are only 4,500 Afghan Troops. Once there is 60,000 something can get done. And it won't be the US storming through the country side.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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