Ctp2 Source Code To Be Released

[ahenobarb]

You realize of course about half the SLIC mods people were working on now are pointless. It would be far easier to directly implement them by adding source code.

So is it time to start making a list of the things to be fixed, reimplemented, and added?

In no particular order:

1. remove those hard coded limitations on the number of sprites and so forth
2. Fix the diplomacy model, so that all of the features work.
3. Reimplement the space features
4. Add strategic resources
5. Add colonies
6. allow shifting borders (border expansions ala Civ III)
7. Allow increased vision ranges for units on hills/mountains
8. fix the problem with city trading where you can have so many cities they bleed off the screen
9. add religion as a component to the game
10. ... And ...

[Solver]

Ahenobarb, head over to the CtP2 Creation forum and see our brainstorming and fix list threads .

[st_swithin]

YEAH!!

0. KILL A*. WORST PATHFINDING ALGORITHM EVER!

3. REIMPLEMENT SPACE!!

10. GUI support. REAL customisable gui features. What we had in there was at best, ad hoc, and at worst, straight up kludge (no offence, MrOgre - we were in a hurry, but the keyboard handling uberswitch was just EVIL.)

11. Rebalance to fight the infinite city sleeze.

12. Lemur settlers.

13. Lembas resource.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by ahenobarb
You realize of course about half the SLIC mods people were working on now are pointless. It would be far easier to directly implement them by adding source code.

Would n't be more flexible to make SLIC more powerful, rather than make constaints in the source code than could have been done (optionally) with SLIC anyway?

[MrBaggins]

sure, provided that its efficient enough. Certain things you do want (or can only do) in the game engine though...

[Pedrunn]

reds4ever, Bug fixes requires source code additions. The AI I believe should be done trhough the source code. The same with the Diplomacy. Since those should be totally re-done. But i totally agree with you! We indeed should make SLIC more power to add new features to the game. Specially the power of slic over UI.
But i am not a programmer just a SLICer so what do i know

[Peter Triggs]

YEAH!!

3. REIMPLEMENT SPACE!!

Oh, yeah. I seem to recall one of you lot saying "We bit off more than we could chew on that one."

I think Lemurs should take priority over this.

[st_swithin]

"We are, after all, SLICers ourselves, and tend to think everyine would like to be." -MrFrodo

LEMURS RULE THE ISLAND OF MADAGASCAR!!!!

[st_swithin]

"We are, after all, SLICers ourselves, and tend to think everyone would like to be." -MrFrodo

LEMURS RULE THE ISLAND OF MADAGASCAR!!!!

[Solver]

Swithin, space is on our wishlist.

I know you don't like going to CtP forums, but would you please take a look there and say what you think of our ideas ?

[Mr Ogre]

I didn't move back to Venice, I just never updated my account.

A* is the only pathing algorithm worth talking about. CTP2 does have some glitches, perhaps, but blaming it on A* isn't fair at all. The algorithm is well known and used in practically every game that needs to have pathing. Any problems are with the data being fed to it or bugs in the specific implementation.

The code for space isn't just turned off or anything simple like that, it's completely gone. Putting a second layer back in would be a major undertaking.

And the question you all really care about, I should have the code from Activision early next week. I just have to strip it and send it back, they'll slap a license agreement on it, maybe put it in a self extracting zip or something, have a coven of lawyers throw it in a cauldron full of chicken blood and subpoenas, let it boil until the full moon, and then finally turn their backs and let it escape.

[Solver]

Great news, Ogre! Hope that stripping and the other crap won't take too long!

Any chance we will have some comments remaining?

[Maquiladora]

Second that

[Thue]

I made a good part of the pathfinding in freeciv. That was also A*. Seemed like the obvious choice.

I wonder what license they will use. Is GPL too much to ask for?

Somebody mentioned that they needed ctp2 source to be able to see the source of a civ game. I suspect that the freeciv source is much cleaner and therefore a better candidate.

[Atahualpa]

Please dont strip explanational comments