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Who would want to live at the bottom of the ocean? Maybe send some machines down there by remote control.
Floating or anchored to the ground oil-platform style... now that'd make a cool resort.
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SeaQuest DSV was a great scifi show. The technologies weren't absurdly advanced like Star Trek, but it still felt futuristic. But when they changed the format with a more militaristic tone, they killed it. Scifi never does well in regular TV because most people think "If I don't understand Science, then I won't like scifi shows." B*llsh*t. I nearly pass out at the sight of open surgery, but I still enjoy E.R. I'm disgusted with Washington politics, but I still enjoy The West Wing. I find the genre of Medival-anything boring, but I still enjoy Samurai Jack. I absolutely hate reality TV, but I still watch The Osbornes from time to time.
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Underwater habitations are no more unlikely than any in space. Our current technologies (in processes and materials) are already at a place where we could start rudimentary settlements in both environments. Problem is the cost and peoples' willingness to brave the dangers inherent in colonizing new frontiers. Implossions, seaquakes, collisions are all real dangers...but not insurmountable. Finding financial backing for construction is all but impossible for the time being.
There are vast mineral riches to be found in the deep sea, but we have to be willing to get to them first. Mining is probably better left to automated mining operations, but opening the sea to inhabited settlements will help eliviate a great deal of population stresses in many countries. All the same can pretty much be said of space colonization.
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The only reason for building up in space is to take advantage of the microgravity environment. The cost of moving things up there is huge. It is more economical to build on the moon first, which only requires a little more energy to reach than geosynchronous orbit. One can mine materials and lift into orbital space at 5% of the energy cost of lifting from Earth.
Deep sea is reachable at little energy cost via remote devices. No need to build down there, potentially more dangerous than space. By deep breathing a person can survive exposure to vaccuum as long as loss of pressure is gradual (over a few minutes), but cannot survive exposure to immense pressures of the deep (middle ear implodes, your brain gets crushed).
It isn't just lack-of-air that is a problem in space. Radiation and extreme temperatures aren't too friendly either. Being sucked out of the spaceship during an expolosive decompression will pop your eardrums just as quick. Your brain won't get squished, but that won't matter because you'll be flying away from the ship too fast for anyone to catch up with you before you're dead: reaction time to decompression, damage accessment, casualty check, rescue attempt...in that order. No one can hold their breath that long. And even if they could, they're done for anyway because of radiation is already having a grand old time with their DNA and temperatures are both cooking and freezing the corpsicle.
The danger is no greater or less than that of the deep sea. Just different problems.
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Originally posted by DRoseDARs
I doubt settling the *Edit: let me doublecheck that name...* would be a very smart idea, but certainly the pressure on continental shelf is managable.
I fully support automation for the deepest depths, but for the shallows there's a place for people.
The shallows (relative term here) give you a different set of structural design issues, with surge, temperature gradients, storm effects, etc. Then there's a problem with anchoring structures on uneven, non-compactible base material, dewatering, condensation, etc. Then you get the wondrous corrosive effects of sea water, (it'll kill any grade of stainless steel), and even at shallow depths, pressure is not trivial - you add one atmosphere of pressure for every ten meters of depth.
Breathing is a problem, unless you stick to atmospheric air pressure (a problem in the structural design), or gas mixtures (expensive to support).
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The shallows (relative term here) give you a different set of structural design issues, with surge, temperature gradients, storm effects, etc. Then there's a problem with anchoring structures on uneven, non-compactible base material, dewatering, condensation, etc. Then you get the wondrous corrosive effects of sea water, (it'll kill any grade of stainless steel), and even at shallow depths, pressure is not trivial - you add one atmosphere of pressure for every ten meters of depth.
Breathing is a problem, unless you stick to atmospheric air pressure (a problem in the structural design), or gas mixtures (expensive to support).
Originally posted by TCO
nuke subs, muthafukkas!!!
dumbasses trying to make a home under the ocean.
only the sub goes down there.
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Albert, there is a certain amount of mineral wealth in the oceans - but one thing space has that the ocean hasn't is sunlight.
A lot easier to power a spacecraft than a deep sea ocean habitat.
I guess space and sea will happen at a similar rate - we'll need those minerals and will work out ways to get them - but whole communities underwater? Doubtful when you could build them floating on top with less grief.
OK, you get weather on the top - and you get earthquakes on the bottom. No easy answers sometimes.
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We;ve ****ed up the ocean enough i wouldn't want to mess it up even more
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But it is easyier to get the heavy sheilding and such for a nuke down to an ocean area. Also the ocean has a heat sink. I'm not sure why you would want to be in an ocean anyway....
I don't really have an opinion which would be easier. It is neat to think about. I suspect that buliding in the shallows would be easier.
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