Grrr...why weren't these people immediately made US Citizens?

[Agathon]

Funny how the few Cubans that try to make it to the states get so much press, while the thousands of Mexicans that try every day don't seem to merit that much attention.

There are 200 million street children in the world. Not one is Cuban. If the US dumped that stupid embargo they could get on with their lives. But no, the US would dearly like to give Cuban children the right to choose to sew baseballs for 2 cents a day.

[yavoon]

Originally posted by GePap


You mean like in 1981?

Haiti is smaller, less people..and we give Haitian immigrants hell.

most Cuban immigrants, like most Chinese immigrants, are economic immigrants, not political refugees. It is utterly absurd (except politically) that only people from one country get to have free greencards if they make it illegally unto US shores.

I think ur tryin to start something w/ me that aint there. someone else could respond to ur post tho.

=D

[Cruddy]

Does this mean if I turn up on a Florida beach, speaking fluent Latin American Spanish, I can get a green card for nothing?

Why aren't the Mexicans trying that stunt?

[mrmitchell]

Oh and BTW, yes, immigration laws are ****ing stupid. If you want to move, why should anyone stop you?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Cruddy
Does this mean if I turn up on a Florida beach, speaking fluent Latin American Spanish, I can get a green card for nothing?

Why aren't the Mexicans trying that stunt?

Cause the Cuban Americans in the Miami IRS office could tell within an instant if it was a Cuban or not...just by how they speak.

[Dinner]

I'm actually against even having the "make it on shore and you get a green card" policy. I'd bet 90%+ of these people are economic migrants. They should have to provide detailed proof that they are being prosecuted for their political or religious beliefs before these free loaders get to sign up for welfare and a free ride.

[Dis]

I'm impressed with their ingenuity.

we need people like this in the U.S. People like that are what built our great nation.

[DRoseDARs]

They built a boat...out of a '51 Chevy Pickup...made out of not-quite-bouyant metal. They shouldn't have been turned away so callously.

Methinks at the very least they would have had little trouble finding jobs as mechanics. My allusion to Monster Garage was tongue-in-cheek; they clearly have mechanical and problem-solving skills, so worrying about them leaching off Welfare might be a little premature.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Agathon
Funny how the few Cubans that try to make it to the states get so much press, while the thousands of Mexicans that try every day don't seem to merit that much attention.

There are 200 million street children in the world. Not one is Cuban. If the US dumped that stupid embargo they could get on with their lives. But no, the US would dearly like to give Cuban children the right to choose to sew baseballs for 2 cents a day.

I'd love to see the embargo lifted, mainly to refute stupid assertions like the only reason that the Cuban economy is complete sh!t is the embargo. There's a reason why Cuba and NK are the only Stalinist command economy states remaining in the world, and that reason is that these sorts of economies have been disasters across the board. But in these two states the dictators are too closely associated with them to give them up.

[Elden]

Originally posted by Oerdin
I'm actually against even having the "make it on shore and you get a green card" policy. I'd bet 90%+ of these people are economic migrants. They should have to provide detailed proof that they are being prosecuted for their political or religious beliefs before these free loaders get to sign up for welfare and a free ride.

BS, Cuba is a communist country anyone with any religious beliefs will be persecuted, guaranteed no proof necessary.

[Mordoch]

Originally posted by Elden


BS, Cuba is a communist country anyone with any religious beliefs will be persecuted, guaranteed no proof necessary.

The Pope visited Cuba just a few years ago. I very much doubt that he would have done so if religious persecution against Catholics in the country was too severe. What specific evidence do you have if recent significant religious persecution in Cuba? Just because Cuba is Communist in name doens't mean it follows all aspects of that doctrine to the letter.

[Elden]

Originally posted by Mordoch

The Pope visited Cuba just a few years ago. I very much doubt that he would have done so if religious persecution against Catholics in the country was too severe. What specific evidence do you have if recent significant religious persecution in Cuba? Just because Cuba is Communist in name doens't mean it follows all aspects of that doctrine to the letter.

Wow, didn't know the Pope had visited Cuba, interesting. But still I was under the impression that Communism officially forbade religion with harsh consequences for following it - or was that only the U.S.S.R. ?

[Mordoch]

Originally posted by Elden


Wow, didn't know the Pope had visited Cuba, interesting. But still I was under the impression that Communism officially forbade religion with harsh consequences for following it - or was that only the U.S.S.R. ?

It sounds like Cuba is far more lenient.

The Pope held a mass while there, and the Cuban government actually provided buses for people for come.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9801/22/cuba.mass.reax/index.html

With collapse of the USSR, Fidel Castro apparently found it advisable politically to ease allow religious freedom while focussing on maintaining political power.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
We should be sending back all of them. By allowing them in and automatically making them citizens, we are encouraging people to try and kill themselves in the shark-infested Florida straights. If they need to get out of Cuba so badly, let them go to the Bahamas or Haiti which are both much closer than Florida.

Of course, if they were fleeing the Batista regime, you'd welcome them with open arms. Or are you just against all refugees?

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Elden
Wow, didn't know the Pope had visited Cuba, interesting. But still I was under the impression that Communism officially forbade religion with harsh consequences for following it - or was that only the U.S.S.R. ?

Neither east bloc state forbade religion, not even the USSR, although the restrictions to the churches there may have been more severe than elsewhere. In East Germany, where I grew up, we had pretty strong Evangelic and Catholic communities, or where else do you think came all the priests from, who led the peaceful revolution in 89/90?

Some of the church leaders whined about the "harsh restriction" of the churches though, seeing that less and less people went to the churches. After the reunification, they shut up very quick, seeing that the same shift towards atheism took place in West Germany too. It's a matter of education, I guess, not ideology.