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  • #16
    Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
    Sahara kicks all their asses.
    I'm sure if you say it enough, you'll believe it.

    It still remains a second-rate browser with konqueror, Apple fans just have a weird ability to chant things to themselves and others and suddenly believe them.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #17
      Because I have it crash, hang, and become unresponsive far more often than IE. I also dislike how the scroll works while the page is loading, it's irratic and irritating
      I dont find that, report it with your processor arch, OS and connection etc.

      It looks good?? AOL gave them $2M...that's pocketchange
      I mean that financially, Mozilla is not dependent on Netscape/AOL.

      they're hiring three of the 50 people laid off
      Ok, not many then, but better than a kick in the crotch!

      Ahem. Who do you think develops 95% of Mozilla's code?
      Mozilla?? They have the code now, all they need to do is develop it. They have the three developers coming across now so that may maintain a netscape direction for a bit, but it is an independent browser, whose life is not dependent on netscape.

      Besides, if your arguments were true, and Mozilla was in deep ****, dont you think that there would be a degree more concern in the FOSS circles?
      "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
      "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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      • #18
        I'm sure if you say it enough, you'll believe it.

        It still remains a second-rate browser with konqueror, Apple fans just have a weird ability to chant things to themselves and others and suddenly believe them.


        Wasn't it an obvious joke, Asher? For god's sake, I didn't even name the browser correctly. Why don't you pull that stick out of your ass?
        KH FOR OWNER!
        ASHER FOR CEO!!
        GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Asher
          Because it takes way longer to load,
          Wierd.

          On my comp it takes 2 or 3 seconds to load, while IE often freezes for 2 or 3 seconds for no reason at all, reading my hard disk.

          And no, I don't have spyware present

          doesn't support the Google Toolbar's (better) way of blocking popups

          Maybe, but I have no doubt it will.

          Anyhoo, I don't care, I use my own ad-blocker.

          is still substantially buggier than IE

          Nope, can't share that thought. I have the most recent version of IE 6 + SP, and it still crashes, as often as once every couple of days.

          Mozilla since version 1.2 didn't crash on me once.

          Admittedly I used it less, but put it uner the same or more stress.

          and its future is in doubt with last week's laying off of 50 of their software engineers.

          No it's not, since it's still an active community.

          Nor should that be of any concern, because according to recent rumors, Microsoft will not make anymore IE versions, nor any further service packs. If you want a new version - get their future windows version.

          Not to mention that the interface is noticably less responsive than IE.

          I know, but it has very much improved in 1.4. The main reason appears to be that Mozillla uses it's own API. I also find this annoying, but I understand their need for it, being cross platform and all.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by elijah
            I dont find that, report it with your processor arch, OS and connection etc.
            It happens on my P3 800, 384MB RAM, cable internet, WinXP SP1. It happens on my P4 2.53GHz, 1GB RAM, DSL internet, WinXP SP1. It happens on my UltraSparc II 450MHz, 256MB RAM, Solaris 8. It happens on my P3 800, 384MB RAM, cable internet, Linux 2.4.20...

            I mean that financially, Mozilla is not dependent on Netscape/AOL.
            And where do they get their money, then?

            Mozilla?? They have the code now, all they need to do is develop it. They have the three developers coming across now so that may maintain a netscape direction for a bit, but it is an independent browser, whose life is not dependent on netscape.
            Mozilla has funding to hire 3 programmers. That is, seriously, nothing. They relied on Netscape to do basically everything, overall design to implementation of the boring stuff the "freebie" volunteers never want to do.

            Besides, if your arguments were true, and Mozilla was in deep ****, dont you think that there would be a degree more concern in the FOSS circles?
            It's been in the local papers here, it's been talked about on CNN, etc. FOSS circles probably don't want to admit that their vaunted, flagship open source software is going down the crapper.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
              Wasn't it an obvious joke, Asher?
              In Canada, Drake, jokes tend to be funny.

              For the life of me, I see no humour in your post.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                Why don't you pull that stick out of your ass?
                Maybe he likes having a stick up his arse


                On-topic, I've grown so attached to Opera that I can't be arsed to switch (again).

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                • #23
                  It's been in the local papers here, it's been talked about on CNN, etc. FOSS circles probably don't want to admit that their vaunted, flagship open source software is going down the crapper.
                  That would be the HURD!

                  Lets wait for a couple of months see if you are correct

                  It happens on my P3 800, 384MB RAM, cable internet, WinXP SP1. It happens on my P4 2.53GHz, 1GB RAM, DSL internet, WinXP SP1. It happens on my UltraSparc II 450MHz, 256MB RAM, Solaris 8
                  I smell BS. It runs perfectly well on my P4 2.8GHz, 512Mb RAM, cable, Slackware9.0 and WinXP home box, although IE sometimes freezes and bumps out in XP. Cant be bothered to get crossover office so I cant test it on Linux .
                  "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                  "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                  • #24
                    Maybe he likes having a stick up his arse




                    I think you hit the nail on the head.
                    KH FOR OWNER!
                    ASHER FOR CEO!!
                    GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                    • #25
                      In Canada, Drake, jokes tend to be funny
                      I confess, there are days I wish I was Canadian. Still, sunny bloody England
                      "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                      "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by elijah
                        That would be the HURD!
                        HURD? Give me a break.

                        The flagship OSS projects are Apache and Mozilla. HURD is way back there.

                        I smell BS. It runs perfectly well on my P4 2.8GHz, 512Mb RAM, cable, Slackware9.0 and WinXP home box, although IE sometimes freezes and bumps out in XP. Cant be bothered to get crossover office so I cant test it on Linux .
                        You smell BS? Mozilla is slow, buggy, and unresponsive on any platform.

                        Most people use Netscape 4.7 on the Solaris boxes at school because Mozilla 1.3 (haven't tried 1.4 at school yet), seriously, takes 15-20 seconds to load. It's ridiculous.

                        They all try to get on the WinXP boxes desperately (and this is compsci!).
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #27
                          My two cents, I like, very much like, the text zoom feature of Mozilla and Netscape. IE and IE based browers have nothing comparable. By itself, this puts Mozilla in a class by itself for me.

                          As to speed, IE and Mozilla seem to be about the same for me. However, the IE engine is still required for some things. But there are other IE-engine browsers that also include some of advanced browser features that IE does not have, such as popup blocking and tabs:

                          Try the Slimbroswer. It is really good.

                          Best Internet Browser Software and other Internet utilities for FREE download


                          I haven't tried Opera, so I have no opinion.
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                          • #28
                            Mozilla is slow, buggy, and unresponsive on any platform
                            ...that you happen to use.

                            Mozilla is slow to load, its not unresponsive when loaded. I'm waiting for the faster stuff to get integrated. 1.5 is going to rule!!!
                            "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                            "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                            • #29
                              Asher, you really don't like open source software do you?
                              "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                              "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                              • #30
                                Asher, any responses to my second post?

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