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Firstly.. WHY???
Secondly... Why not ordinary civilian courts? Isn't there double standards when the only American citizen there is tried under civilian juries etc? Also the two British guys up for trial there look like they have some hope, though the Americans don't want the same legal opportunities given to the rest of the prisoners. Why not?
Thirdly, and this takes the form of a question as much as anything else. I would like to know what people think about the presumption of innocence before guilt. I agree with it very strongly of course, but hearing other arguments is interesting.
Fourthly and on a slightly different note, Bush said that "these are bad people", referring to the two British men up for trial, and presumably the rest of the inmates. This of course either demonstrates that they are pretty much condemned, or that Bush is irrationally jumping to conclusions, or that he is operating on fallacious, absolutist principles of good and bad, without evidence to make those assumptions, pretty much except that these men were at the wrong place at the wrong time, thus got arrested in Afghanistan.
Fifthly, to those that support Guantanamo, why? Isn't fair trials, innocence before guilt, and adherence to the spirit and letter of international conventions that the US signs up to, enshrined in your constitution? IMO, being patriotic at best is being loyal to that constitution, not to Bush or irrational sentiment based as much on revenge as anything else. Perhaps some of the arguments for Camp X-ray or whatever its called would be interested, because I may be missing something...
Secondly... Why not ordinary civilian courts? Isn't there double standards when the only American citizen there is tried under civilian juries etc? Also the two British guys up for trial there look like they have some hope, though the Americans don't want the same legal opportunities given to the rest of the prisoners. Why not?
Thirdly, and this takes the form of a question as much as anything else. I would like to know what people think about the presumption of innocence before guilt. I agree with it very strongly of course, but hearing other arguments is interesting.
Fourthly and on a slightly different note, Bush said that "these are bad people", referring to the two British men up for trial, and presumably the rest of the inmates. This of course either demonstrates that they are pretty much condemned, or that Bush is irrationally jumping to conclusions, or that he is operating on fallacious, absolutist principles of good and bad, without evidence to make those assumptions, pretty much except that these men were at the wrong place at the wrong time, thus got arrested in Afghanistan.
Fifthly, to those that support Guantanamo, why? Isn't fair trials, innocence before guilt, and adherence to the spirit and letter of international conventions that the US signs up to, enshrined in your constitution? IMO, being patriotic at best is being loyal to that constitution, not to Bush or irrational sentiment based as much on revenge as anything else. Perhaps some of the arguments for Camp X-ray or whatever its called would be interested, because I may be missing something...
you mean bored? It is now barbaric not to AMUSE people?
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