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  • #31
    Originally posted by Kidicious


    That's capitalism for you. It hasn't solved our problems yet, and it's not going to. We have to abandon the old and usher in the new. Only a fool keeps trying the old ways. Have some vision.
    Capitalism is all about bringing in new technology.

    Communism is about making a whole population cattle of a centrally planned economy, thus one that cannot produce ****.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Kidicious


      Only when it is rewarded, not punished. That's human nature. Humans adapt to their environment.
      ahh the true nature of your intentions

      so you want to forcibley change people's behaviours.

      I see how you are.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Fez
        I like money I admit it. I love buying things and I will like stepping out in the world to achieve and buy more things. There... if you want to punish that, you are certainly delusional.
        That's not what I'm talking about Fez. I'm talking about people buying things they could really careless about just because they have insecurities. It makes them feel better for a little while, but then they feel guilty and empty. Meanwhile people are hungry, homeless and going with out medical care.

        I'm talking about the lack of community attachment that keeps getting worse as capitalism developes. I'm talking about working for the same company for twenty years and losing your job for no good reason, spending the rest of your life feeling inadequate.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Dissident


          ahh the true nature of your intentions

          so you want to forcibley change people's behaviours.

          I see how you are.
          What kind of dream world are you living in if you don't think that's the way it has always worked. The point is to do it in a way to benefit society.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Kidicious


            That's not what I'm talking about Fez. I'm talking about people buying things they could really careless about just because they have insecurities. It makes them feel better for a little while, but then they feel guilty and empty. Meanwhile people are hungry, homeless and going with out medical care.
            Well you speak falsely. This is 2003. Not 1903. Again you are nothing but a liar in this regard. You try to paint a bad picture for a capitalism that probably has a date stamp on it of 1903 or something.. this is 2003 and capitalism has blossomed. More people can live. You are nothing but careless in your remarks.

            I'm talking about the lack of community attachment that keeps getting worse as capitalism developes. I'm talking about working for the same company for twenty years and losing your job for no good reason, spending the rest of your life feeling inadequate.
            Community attachment? That is hardly something a communist can discuss.

            Okay.. take the typical Argentine problem... you cannot be layed off because of labor rigidities. Companies then collapse. The economy collapses. Then what do you have? A utter **** up. That is what you are proposing.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Fez
              Capitalism is all about bringing in new technology.
              True. That's all capitalism is about. Technology isn't everything though. In fact it may does a lot of harm.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Fez
                Well you speak falsely. This is 2003. Not 1903. Again you are nothing but a liar in this regard. You try to paint a bad picture for a capitalism that probably has a date stamp on it of 1903 or something.. this is 2003 and capitalism has blossomed. More people can live. You are nothing but careless in your remarks.
                I'm tired of you right wingers saying that the world is in a golden age of capitalist utopia. Silly nonsense. Good night.

                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • #38
                  Plowed the north 40 with Bessie the mule this weekend, did we?
                  When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                  • #39
                    I'm tired of people calling me a right winger

                    I'm a moderate.

                    just because I don't believe in a system that doesn't work, doesn't make me a right winger.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Kidicious

                      I'm tired of you right wingers saying that the world is in a golden age of capitalist utopia. Silly nonsense. Good night.

                      Why the fvck don't you move to North Korea and check out your beloved communism first hand?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Kidicious

                        I'm tired of you right wingers saying that the world is in a golden age of capitalist utopia. Silly nonsense. Good night.

                        Go move to Cuba and see how your ****ing model is working.

                        I am tired of your bull. When I confront you with the facts you back off like a scared animal..
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #42
                          nkorea's more stalinist than communist.

                          and capitalism is a wonderful system, but it's no "utopia"... it's no earthly paradise, for one.

                          capitalism and democracy are the best systems we have now. they are not the apex of government and economics, however.

                          socialism and communism have no place in the future.
                          B♭3

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                          • #43
                            Re: Is humanity (collectively) going to hell?

                            Originally posted by Sava
                            Not really a religious topic... but assuming it exists... is humanity going to hell?
                            discuss...
                            What an odd question for an Atheist.
                            Why would you even have this question?
                            If God doesn't exist, Hell doesn't exist.

                            It's sad really, if you think about it.
                            You're saying that the worst is possible, but salvation is not possible.

                            To quote an old Foreigner song, "I wouldn't want to be like you".
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #44
                              Well I use the word "hell" to describe really ****ty conditions. And I am atheist.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #45
                                Sorry to hear that, Fez.





                                Someone's asking about you.










                                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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