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You are getting the worst of it by letting Fez's inability to pay attention to what he writes annoy you.
If you stick to the facts he has nowhere to go.
First off he said that Russia's military must be collapsing because it spends $11bn a year - when it is shown to him why that buys a lot more in Russia than in the US (or Spain for that matter) he claims that what he was really saying was that Russia's military is not as well provisioned as the US's.
This change in what he claimed he was talking about was either intentional or unintentional.
If it was unintentional then Fez obviously has problems in expressing himself adequately, and as such we should treat every 'point' he makes as something dubious that may actually mean something else - in that case ask him to confirm, in no uncertain terms, exactly what he is talking about before replying.
If it was intentional then Fez is using a common aural debating trick of attempting to change what you said a while ago to something else when you're proved wrong - what amazes me is that he was stupid enough to try that here (where you can easily see what he wrote a while ago) and, even more surprising is that you fell for it.
Originally posted by Serb
Damn gays, you ruined such a perfect thread with your silly gay- "blah...blah...blah."
They ruined it! You and Fez ****ed it up long before they got here.
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I think you two would make a great couple. Fez could be the ray of Latin sunshine that warms your cold, Siberian heart, Serb. So romantic...
You are getting the worst of it by letting Fez's inability to pay attention to what he writes annoy you.
If you stick to the facts he has nowhere to go.
First off he said that Russia's military must be collapsing because it spends $11bn a year - when it is shown to him why that buys a lot more in Russia than in the US (or Spain for that matter) he claims that what he was really saying was that Russia's military is not as well provisioned as the US's.
I only posted an article that mentioned that Russian soldiers do not have enough to eat and they cannot afford uniforms.
If it was unintentional then Fez obviously has problems in expressing himself adequately, and as such we should treat every 'point' he makes as something dubious that may actually mean something else - in that case ask him to confirm, in no uncertain terms, exactly what he is talking about before replying.
I posted my evidence and I have provided an adequate response to it. I posted solid facts.
If you think you can outwit me, you cannot. You didn't in the debate about economics and you won't now.
If it was intentional then Fez is using a common aural debating trick of attempting to change what you said a while ago to something else when you're proved wrong - what amazes me is that he was stupid enough to try that here (where you can easily see what he wrote a while ago) and, even more surprising is that you fell for it.
I make a good politican.
Edit: And oh it was intentional.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
Originally posted by Fez
If you think you can outwit me, you cannot. You didn't in the debate about economics and you won't now.
Fez, an ameboa could outwit you - your debating 'skill' consists of only one tactic - saying you are right and refusing to admit defeat even when it is patently obvious.
As such in any debate all you come across as is an idiot.
Maybe I can't 'outwit' you then, but then by that standard I couldn't 'outwit' a parrot or a recorded message either.
Originally posted by Fez
I make a good politican.
Edit: And oh it was intentional.
No, you'd make a very poor polititian indeed - do you honestly think you can fool people as easily as you did serb then?
If I check up on what you say even here in these forums you'd be ripped to shreds by any reporters wanting a story.
The only parties who would touch you with a barge-pole are those who think that any publicity is good publicity.
Fez, an ameboa could outwit you - your debating 'skill' consists of only one tactic - saying you are right and refusing to admit defeat even when it is patently obvious.
As such in any debate all you come across as is an idiot.
Maybe I can't 'outwit' you then, but then by that standard I couldn't 'outwit' a parrot or a recorded message either.
And I classify you as the typical *******.
No, you'd make a very poor polititian indeed - do you honestly think you can fool people as easily as you did serb then?
I know my limits and what kind of people I deal with. I do things differently with others.
If I check up on what you say even here in these forums you'd be ripped to shreds by any reporters wanting a story.
The only parties who would touch you with a barge-pole are those who think that any publicity is good publicity.
You my foe are the typical jackass who wants nothing more but to see me fail.. do you have any decency at all?
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
Originally posted by Fez
I know my limits and what kind of people I deal with. I do things differently with others.
You clearly don't know your limits or you would only engage the brain-dead in debate.
Originally posted by Fez
You my foe are the typical jackass who wants nothing more but to see me fail.. do you have any decency at all?
More paranoia from you here, have you considered getting your head shrinked?
I would love to see you succeed in an argument - that is succeed by using another method other than your usual parroting of "I'm right, you're wrong" untill everyone get's bored.
You may think that you 'win' these exchanges - what you really do is make it less and less likely that anyone will take anything you say seriously, which is a shame as I'm sure you have important things to contribute.
You clearly don't know your limits or you would only engage the brain-dead in debate.
More paranoia from you here, have you considered getting your head shrinked?
I would love to see you succeed in an argument - that is succeed by using another method other than your usual parroting of "I'm right, you're wrong" untill everyone get's bored.
You may think that you 'win' these exchanges - what you really do is make it less and less likely that anyone will take anything you say seriously, which is a shame as I'm sure you have important things to contribute.
This is not going anywhere... good day to you sir.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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