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I hope the much better Bradleys are used instead...
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For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence) -
OK, so we're supposed to go kick some LURD ass? This whole story of what American troops would do there doesn't seem to be very well developed.
Btw, I wouldn't mind us kicking some LURD ass. They have a core of jihadists, IIRC. Not your pan-muslim jihadists like the al Qaeda dead-enders, but still...I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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The LURD needs to be shown a lesson on warfare and Taylor needs to leave too.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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What are you people talking about?
The US will not send any forces to do anyting but peacekeep..that means, AFTER some sort of semblance has been reached: that means either both sides agree to a ceasefire, or one side beats the other and then asks.
If any outsiders are going to come in an shot at anyone, it would most likely be West African forces, as they did in Sierra Leone. As it was, Bush was talking about sending a small contingent of US forces that would aid a much larger African force of peacekeepers.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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Well the Nigerians are famous for coming in and starting shooting wars with the rebels... they have a large and relatively modern (on comparsion to region) miltiary.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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You would be going to peacekeep.OK, so we're supposed to go kick some LURD ass? This whole story of what American troops would do there doesn't seem to be very well developed.
Ideally, a joint West African-American force would have been in place already, perhaps even preventing the latest outbreak of violence, and facilitating Taylor's speedy exit from the country.
Now that the war is seemingly back on again, no peacekeeping force will be sent... until the fighting stops. Simple as that. Unless you guys want to get into peaceMAKING, which I do not reccomend.
So, basically, now we just have to wait and see when everything quiets down, and then either send in a peacekeeping force to aid in the transition of government, or just re-analyze the situation."I wrote a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?" -Frank Zappa
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Pewacemaking should be contained to situations where catstraophe is imminent (i.e. Rwanda)12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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Maybe it's the concept of peacekeeping that doesn't make any sense to me. If the peace is already there, why would US troops be needed in the situation at all? Would US troops just be there to extend the power of various factions to what it would normally be unable to do?
If you want to make peace, I can see some concrete steps for US troops being set out.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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B3cause peace is a fragile thing. Especially in civile war.
UN trioops go in the centre to stop people from treading on each other's toes. I t presupposes good will on the part of major players, and is utile when trust is lacking betwnnn sides. Blue helmets keep the UN boys safe because the fighters don't want to look bad.
That's the ideal, at least. Sometimes the *******s get in the way.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
It'll teach them that roadbound and hard, smooth off-road surface limited forces are a lot easier to channelize into effective killing zones than tracked forces.
Stryker sucks ass.
(I was being Ironic. I;m even more Ironic in Pekka's "Susie Q" thread)Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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If you want us to invade, pacify the country and take care of anyone who tries to stop that, let us know. Otherwise, there isn't much we can do. This is not a place for bleu hats to prevent border skirmishes.Comment
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If the country were stabilised, and substantial commitments made to improving the country, Monrovia could be made into a West African Hong Kong. Would be a good base for the greater development of Africa.
So I support the sending in of troops, be it US or otherwise.Comment
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You said before that the justification for sending in the troops was that the sides would accept the forces. Now we have a side that refuses to do so. Are you calling for us to fight them?Comment
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Or..are you just a moron?Comment
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I didn't say anything before, and half of this thread has been about the Stryker.Comment
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