Apple Beats Expectations, LindowsOS Gets Major Overhaul!

[Drake Tungsten]

When do Mac users get to benefit from real competition?

We don't now? We could always switch to Windows if we wanted to or, more likely, lost our minds.

[Asher]

Originally posted by monolith94
ten dollars on asher posting here within the next half hour.

Already on it.

Other interesting tidbits: MS won the massive Homeland Security bit. Big surprise there. It's huge news to people like Urban Ranger when Berlin invests $1M in Linux desktops, but it's not that big of a deal when MS wins a $500M or $120M contract.

Cloud9 also conveniently forgets to mention that Apple's profits are actually on a decline compared to last year...and last year was far worse economically than this year.

Intel beat expectations too, and totally dwarfs Apple as can be expected. Net income was $896M on revenues of $6.8B due to unexpectedly high Pentium 4 (and Pentium M) sales due to AMD's "unexpected*" suckiness. Next quarter, Intel expects $6.9B-$7.5B in revenue as well as higher profit margins, so ~$1B in profit.

And AMD once again proved it is a poorly managed company, with another net loss of $140M on revenues of $600M. (down from revenues of $715M last quarter ) AMD ain't even close to being in the same league.

Unexpected is in quotes because I've been saying that would happen the entire time.

[Drake Tungsten]

Actually that is the problem for Apple. There is no one company making PCs using Intel or AMD CPUs. That is a major problem for Apple.

Surely I'm not the only one who cannot make sense of this statement?

[Imran Siddiqui]

We could always switch to Windows if we wanted to or, more likely, lost our minds

But don't you guys argue that Apple computers are a different market entirely and not like PCs?

[Drake Tungsten]

But don't you guys argue that Apple computers are a different market entirely and not like PCs?

I don't.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Actually that is the problem for Apple. There is no one company making PCs using Intel or AMD CPUs. That is a major problem for Apple.

Surely I'm not the only one who cannot make sense of this statement?

Let me clarify.. it was ambigious... Apple is the only one manufacturing its computer right? Well in the PC market, there is Gateway, IBM, and various others who manufacture computers.

Now does it make sense?

Asher, Intel is out of my price range, so I am sticking with AMD.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
Yet again, Apple is doomed. They've been doomed for 10 years now and they are still here.

OK

8.2% of Americans who surf the web do so using a Mac.

23 percent of TV/Broadcast firms use Apple computers.

More than 57% of web sites that ise video use Apple's QuickTime to deliver it.

Over 18% of all software is sold for the Macintosh.

I call bull****!
/me kicks you in the groin for thinking everyone here is dumb enough to buy into that.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Fez
Asher, Intel is out of my price range, so I am sticking with AMD.

Are things really that different in California?

I'll quote local prices for you (CDN$):
Athlon XP 3200+: $669.95
P4 3.0GHz: $599.95

And the 3.0GHz P4 is actually faster on average...

[Imran Siddiqui]

I don't.

You should . 5% market share isn't something to get excited about if you consider yourself in the same market .

[Ted Striker]

How ironic that a Linux Geek comes in here and presents Lindows as an alternative to Microsoft. A wannabe Linux distro that owes its meager "success" to COPYING MICROSOFT'S INTERFACE.

Get it through your head. Nobody uses Linux. It sucks. A toy. The only reason companies use it is because they are all broke right now and can't afford anything else.

Though Linux Geeks will continue to post silly little news stories in hopes that their zealot OS finally "beats the bad guy."

Been posting hopeless stories like these since 1995!

[Drake Tungsten]

5% market share isn't something to get excited about if you consider yourself in the same market.

I don't care about market-share. I just know which OS I like better.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
How ironic that a Linux Geek comes in here and presents Lindows as an alternative to Microsoft. A wannabe Linux distro that owes its meager "success" to COPYING MICROSOFT'S INTERFACE.

Get it through your head. Nobody uses Linux. It sucks. A toy. The only reason companies use it is because they are all broke right now and can't afford anything else.

Though Linux Geeks will continue to post silly little news stories in hopes that their zealot OS finally "beats the bad guy."

Been posting hopeless stories like these since 1995!

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Asher

Are things really that different in California?

I'll quote local prices for you (CDN$):
Athlon XP 3200+: $669.95
P4 3.0GHz: $599.95

And the 3.0GHz P4 is actually faster on average...

Considering both are out of my price range forget it. I am mostly into the mid range market.

BTW, I am not going to in California until the 14th of August. Right now I am kicking back in Hawaii... plans change.. damn.. I wanted to go to Italy.. But plans change...

[Imran Siddiqui]

I don't care about market-share. I just know which OS I like better.

So you only use Mac for the OS? You don't care about the hardware of the computer or anything?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
While all of Agathons quotes are impressive....

1) I wish for Agathon to quite the WINTEL percentages for those, and then compare the two

That's a totally spurious comparison. As I said many of these computers are used in markets in which Apple does not compete and is not interested in competing.

Anyway, more people buy Britney's records than those of the Berlin Philharmonic, but that doesn't mean that Britney is better.


Windows is an objectionable piece of software from a user's perspective but not half as objectionable as the MS monopoly which has prevented users from enjoying the benefits of a competitive market in OS software. That's why I and all other rational computer users support the adoption of Linux as a means to freeing users from a destructive monopoly.

If you want to know how bad MS is just look at IE for the Macintosh. Almost nobody used it because it was so bad. Finally, in desperation, Apple got hold of Konqueror and modified it to run on OS X. It's smaller, faster, less prone to crashing, has a better interface and has more features than the bloated IE. They couldn't even compete with a modified piece of software which was free.


Fez: "Competition is a weapon to increase production" - Che Guevara.