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  • #16
    To answer the question in the title. High speed chases are not good. It's not a matter of them being good or not. It's a matter of sometimes they are necessary.

    Should the cops be held responsibile? To a certain extent, yes they should. Their actions should be held up to review but they don't need to be afraid to do their job. If that happens, then those that break the law will be more emboldened than they already are.
    Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Tuberski


      So, you are saying that, the cop can hit and kill 15 innocent people, but as long as he busts the guy with the suspended license, he shouldn't be held responsible for the deaths of the other 15 people?



      ACK!
      That would not occur if he receives proper training. And knows his limits.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Fez


        That would not occur if he receives proper training. And knows his limits.
        They don't receive proper training.

        ACK!
        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tuberski


          They don't receive proper training.

          ACK!
          Then they should.

          For now, I support police chases if they are necessary. Not doing anything would do nothing but encourage other people to run from a traffic stop.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #20
            Do any of you remember a high speed chase involving a guy on a motorcycle a few months go ?( I think in Michigan?) The motorcyclist died from a crash . The town rioted for a few days.........There was speculation that the Police Bumped him while both were in excess of 100mph.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Tuberski


              Hate to break it to you, but do you know the number one reason people run from the law is?

              No insurance.

              So obviously we need to chase all people just in case they happen to be a murderer.

              Most police officers don't know why they are chasing somebody until they catch them.

              Murderer? kidnapper? Sure if they know that to be the case, cahse them. But most of the time they don't know that.

              ACK!
              Tell me exactly how a cop is supposed to know exactly why someone is running? If you posses some all emcompassing way to know for sure then perhaps you need to be working with the police helping them out.
              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sprayber
                To answer the question in the title. High speed chases are not good. It's not a matter of them being good or not. It's a matter of sometimes they are necessary.

                Should the cops be held responsibile? To a certain extent, yes they should. Their actions should be held up to review but they don't need to be afraid to do their job. If that happens, then those that break the law will be more emboldened than they already are.
                By the way, I'm undecided on the issue, let me give you another story from the show:

                A police officer sees two people in car acting suspiciously, he pulls them over and they flee so he gives chase. But, because of new pursuit guidelines he stops the chase as he is required to do.

                Hours later he finds out that the two men he was pursuing kidnapped, raped, and murdered a 15 year old little girl.

                If he had a more aggresive pursuit policy, he may have caught them and the murder never would have happened.

                ACK!
                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sprayber


                  Tell me exactly how a cop is supposed to know exactly why someone is running? If you posses some all emcompassing way to know for sure then perhaps you need to be working with the police helping them out.
                  That's the point I'M making, how do they know? Sometimes they know that a murderer, bank robber, rapist is fleeing, most of the time they don't.

                  ACK!
                  Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by CorpusScorpius
                    Do any of you remember a high speed chase involving a guy on a motorcycle a few months go ?( I think in Michigan?) The motorcyclist died from a crash . The town rioted for a few days.........There was speculation that the Police Bumped him while both were in excess of 100mph.
                    this was mainly due to the motorcyclist being black, and the cop being white. This is why they rioted. Apparantly this town has had a problem for a while of police harrassing black people.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tuberski


                      By the way, I'm undecided on the issue, let me give you another story from the show:

                      A police officer sees two people in car acting suspiciously, he pulls them over and they flee so he gives chase. But, because of new pursuit guidelines he stops the chase as he is required to do.

                      Hours later he finds out that the two men he was pursuing kidnapped, raped, and murdered a 15 year old little girl.

                      If he had a more aggresive pursuit policy, he may have caught them and the murder never would have happened.

                      ACK!
                      On one of those cop shows the police chased a guy about ten miles because he was an attorney dressed in drag and didn't want to be seen in his panty hose. Like I said, a cop never knows when he is about to make a stop what is in store for him or her. I would still rather have that decisionr to stop or chase in the hands of officers on the scene instead of some policy maker that has never set foot out on patrol.
                      Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                      • #26
                        I haven't actually voiced my real opinion on this issure.

                        I am tempted to say that only violent offenders should be chased. But I think even non-violent offenders should be chased depending on the conditions. They should never be chased in residential neighborhoods with kids about. But if you're in an industrial area at night with no one around, might as well chase them.

                        I'm sure they can draw up some guidlines when and when not to chase non-violent offenders.

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                        • #27
                          I don't like these chases but if we stop police from chasing people, more criminals will know all they have to do is start running. Of course, they usually start running anyways. I want the police to rely on other methods, like helicopters. Maybe they can figure out a way to attach a tracking device to the car they are following and just wait for the guy to stop and get out.
                          You know, like a harpoon of sorts that can be shot into the side of a car as it goes by...

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                          • #28
                            That's a good idea.

                            Or maybe they can use some kind of magnetic device from the chopper to disable the vehicle.

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