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  • High Speed chases good or bad?

    I watched a show on court TV the other night about high speed chases.

    They had points for both keeping and abolishing them, but the thing that hit me the worst is the SCOTUS upheld a lower court ruling that police were not accountable for deaths that are incurred during the chase, even of innocent citizens.

    Hell, Doctors and Nurses are accountable, why not police officers?

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  • #2
    because the police didn't actually kill them possibly?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dissident
      because the police didn't actually kill them possibly?
      But, chasing somebody that runs because of a taillight is a little ridiculous, don't you think?

      Especially when it leads to the deaths of innocents.

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      • #4
        Tougher sentences need to be required for people who run from the police. I don't care what people think, this is the only solution.

        But to the subject, yes police shouldn't be accountable. The situation is far more dangerous than that of in a hospital, in my opinion. If the police receive proper training they will know when disaster could occur.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #5
          what if the Oklahoma City bomber ran from the police?

          Remember, they only got him because he had a taillight out. If he ran, and the police couldn't chase him, there is the possibility no one would have found him. He would still be at large today.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Fez
            Tougher sentences need to be required for people who run from the police. I don't care what people think, this is the only solution.

            But to the subject, yes police shouldn't be accountable. The situation is far more dangerous than that of in a hospital, in my opinion. If the police receive proper training they will know when disaster could occur.
            You are right, however, there IS no requirement for proper training in most cities.

            Police should be held at least partially responsible for their actions.

            Besides, it is the action of the police officer that gives chase as much as the the criminal that creates this dangerous situation.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tuberski


              You are right, however, there IS no requirement for proper training in most cities.

              Police should be held at least partially responsible for their actions.
              If they receive proper training for chases than there shouldn't be any punishment.

              Besides, it is the action of the police officer that gives chase as much as the the criminal that creates this dangerous situation.

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              No.. actually the police officer is trying to stop the chase before anybody can get killed.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dissident
                what if the Oklahoma City bomber ran from the police?

                Remember, they only got him because he had a taillight out. If he ran, and the police couldn't chase him, there is the possibility no one would have found him. He would still be at large today.
                What if they had been vigilant and seen the tailight BEFORE he set the bomb?

                The Murrah building would still be there.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Fez


                  If they receive proper training for chases than there shouldn't be any punishment.



                  No.. actually the police officer is trying to stop the chase before anybody can get killed.
                  Oh, if he never starts the chase and simply, RECORDS THE LICENSE NUMBER , he can get him a lot easier and safer, can't he?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tuberski


                    Oh, if he never starts the chase and simply, RECORDS THE LICENSE NUMBER , he can get him a lot easier and safer, can't he?

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                    Wrong. The person who decided to run should be persued and arrested. And the person can run, ditch the car and never be found. What happens if it is a stolen vehicle?

                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fez


                      Wrong. The person who decided to run should be persued and arrested. And the person can run, ditch the car and never be found. What happens if it is a stolen vehicle?

                      So, you are saying that, the cop can hit and kill 15 innocent people, but as long as he busts the guy with the suspended license, he shouldn't be held responsible for the deaths of the other 15 people?



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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tuberski


                        Oh, if he never starts the chase and simply, RECORDS THE LICENSE NUMBER , he can get him a lot easier and safer, can't he?

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                        The police are in a No win situation. Should there be High speed chases No.......but........Lets say the police break off pursuit & the individual ends up killing a bunch of people... The same people that would be upset at the High speed chase resulting in innocent deaths would still be infuriated that the police didnt pursue the Individual.......

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tuberski


                          But, chasing somebody that runs because of a taillight is a little ridiculous, don't you think?

                          Especially when it leads to the deaths of innocents.

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                          All the police officers I know say that there are times when chases are called off because a decision is made that it is not worth the risk. You use a ridiculous example of chasing someone because of a broken taillight, how about an example involving multiple murder or kidnapping?
                          Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                          • #14
                            usually the bad guy kills the people, not the cop. The cop is is behind the guy fleeing from the police after all.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sprayber


                              All the police officers I know say that there are times when chases are called off because a decision is made that it is not worth the risk. You use a ridiculous example of chasing someone because of a broken taillight, how about an example involving multiple murder or kidnapping?
                              Hate to break it to you, but do you know the number one reason people run from the law is?

                              No insurance.

                              So obviously we need to chase all people just in case they happen to be a murderer.

                              Most police officers don't know why they are chasing somebody until they catch them.

                              Murderer? kidnapper? Sure if they know that to be the case, cahse them. But most of the time they don't know that.

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