Damn weedheads...

[Sava]

what exactly is shaping your opinion on the subject?

History and common sense. Prohibition doesn't work.

[st_swithin]

You know, you make it sound as if the 4-yr old kid had a CHOICE as to which parents he/she would get.

I've never been attacked by a belligerent stoner, but plenty drunk a55holes have yelled stuff like 'I thought only pretty girls were *****y' when I've not responded to such delicate, witty remarks such as 'You should wear pants made of cling film. I can see myself in them.'

Charming, I must say.

99% of drunk a55holes have no idea that they're drunk a55holes.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Don't worry. He'll be calling for a ban on alcohol next. Again. He works in cycles, you see.

[Apocalypse]

Response edited by Ming...

Apocalypse... your response was over the edge. Learn to attack the arguments... NOT THE POSTERS.

And I would recommend you check your PM's as well.

[Al B. Sure!]

aint it an actually fact that non-criminal problems related to alcohol dropped during prohibition? werent there less cases of men abusing their wives and children? a very liberal history teacher i had would admit that prohibition did succeed in this regard and this was backed up by two other history teachers though i have never seen any statistics to this effect

[monolith94]

men abusing their wives and children is a criminal problem!!!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Apoc, stop being a total tool. It isn't my job to decide what people can and can't have. I'm not their ****ing momma. If people want to do hardcore drugs then I say let 'em. Who am I to say no?

[Al B. Sure!]

Imran:

If people want to do hardcore drugs then I say let 'em. Who am I to say no?

two things... one, you should care about people... people can be stupid sometimes and do things (or they don't have the taught constraints and all that) that will harm them... secondly, what about the drug addict's kids, etc.?

like i've said before, libertarian ideas can work but not now in 2003... people don't got families or communities no more... they dont got anyone teaching them how to live a good life and all that... once we have everyone growing up in a happy home, we can say that people should be able to do what they want... until then, all we got is the fatherless, poor, and miseducated running around doing drugs and what not.

[st_swithin]

Two words, people:

NATURAL SELECTION.

[Imran Siddiqui]

one, you should care about people

I do... therefore I allow them to make their own choices.

secondly, what about the drug addict's kids

What about alcoholics' kids? What about down syndrome's kids?

I'm not everyone's mommy, so don't expect me to act like it!

[Al B. Sure!]

again imran...

like i've said before, libertarian ideas can work but not now in 2003... people don't got families or communities no more... they dont got anyone teaching them how to live a good life and all that... once we have everyone growing up in a happy home, we can say that people should be able to do what they want... until then, all we got is the fatherless, poor, and miseducated running around doing drugs and what not.

that is the flaw in the libertarian arguement... it trusts that everyone has a brain and a conscience (which i do believe) and that these are working perfectly and taught to be working (which i dont believe exists today in 2003). you can not say that a libertarian society works when nobody got pops and their moms are working two shifts and they are left to roam the streets. fix that glaring problem and the libertarian agenda will work, i think... but until that problem gets resolved, it won't.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Um no, Albert (though that paragraph does just show how ignorant you are ).

I don't CARE if no one has a brain or conscience. They get the right to decide what goes in their bodies. No matter how dumb you are, you own your own body. I'm not going to forbid you from injesting something. I'll tell you that it is bad and the dangers, but I won't forbid you.

You can be as dumb or bad if you want, doesn't matter to me. If you die? Doesn't matter to me.

[Al B. Sure!]

Imran but thats wrong... how can you just say, you don't know ****, you dont know anything about what is going on (so your point... "I'll tell you that it is bad and the dangers" is invalid in 2003 as people don't really got nobody telling you what is bad, etc.), so you can just go and do whatever you want...

unless you got some sick motive to keep the poor and fatherless poor and fatherless for countless generations, i suggest you admit that libertarianism does require some sort of education and structure before you allow children into a completely free world.


thanks

[Ming]

And whose fault is that... the fathers that walk out on their responsibilities... Don't go blame society, other people, drugs or booze for their actions... put the blame where it belongs... on the individual.

[Al B. Sure!]

Ming:

but what if the individual is never loved and never taught how to live and all he sees around him is drug addicts and dealers?