TIME: "Why America is Running Out of Gas"

[Dis]

I agree with Sava.

I've just had an idea. I think the U.S. should have two presidents.

One to run the domestic policy, and one to run the foreign policy.

We really need someone other than Cheney/Bush running the U.S. economy and domestic policies.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Dissident
I am tempted to buy a hyrbrid. But they aren't as good. Why? Because the battery only lasts a few years, and then you have to replace it for a few thousand dollars or more. I've had my vehicle 8 years now, and haven't had to put that much money in it for maintenance. My engine still has years left in it.

Plus I wonder about the reliability of hybrid vehicles. They have to prove their worth to me. I want vehicles that last 10 years +. And at least 150,000 miles without major engine battery replacement.

Unfortunately the technology isn't there yet

So you'd rather encourage global warming to save a few bucks?

[Dis]

not all of us are rich Odin. I make very litle money. The only reason I have money is because I'm thrifty and invest my money properly. But all that money goes to a place to live. It can be expensive to find housing in the U.S.

[Traianvs]

Dude, you can even drive on vegetable oil, or olive oil if you're a rich mother****er that is. You just have to perform a few minor changes (nothin special though) and voila: You can drive your car after you've prepared and eaten those delicious French fries... Just use the oil you used for making those fries


Whatever people are going to say. The industry in general doesn't put too much effort in searching for alternative fuels...

[Az]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I do trust Cheney because I believe he is correct. You can't totally base an energy policy on conservation. You NEED new technologies such as fuel cells and fusion power. Conservation is a nice idea, but in practice, people are gonna go for their personal preferences, not those that conserve the best. Even if it is an industry decision, the people still have to buy the products. They'd rather buy the 12 MPG SUV than the 25 MPG sedan.

The thing is, the amount of research done is pityful in comparison to the enormous big ****ing huge ass hyper super duper I-cannot-overestimate-this Bonanza that would come from Fusion power.

What is the percentage of Fusion research as a part of government spending? And then, you build another COMPLETELY UNNEEDED carrier.

It's a shame really. Even a capitalist sees it. I am sure that the US' greatest presidents, Linocln, Roosvelt 1, FDR, Ike, they'd all agree that the USA is going the WRONG way in things.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Odin

BTW they don't make 12MPG SUVs Irman, they are all gas guzzelers.

My 2000 Honda CR-V makes 22 MPG in the city.


Yeah, I know it's a civic with a box on it.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Trajanus
Whatever people are going to say. The industry in general doesn't put too much effort in searching for alternative fuels...

It's bad for the Oil Indusrty, thats capitalism for you, GREED + GREED = CHENEY.

The oil lobby is slowwing down the research of alternative fuels becuase it cuts into thier botton line.

[Az]

Lonestar: Don't diss the Civic. It's a solid, good, affordable car.

Sadly, I don't see good american cars, anymore.

Well, 'cept Ford, but I don't think those are manufactured in the US.

[Odin]

Most of the good cars now are Japanese.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Azazel
Lonestar: Don't diss the Civic. It's a solid, good, affordable car.

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I'm not...

[Imran Siddiqui]

BTW they don't make 12MPG SUVs Irman, they are all gas guzzelers.

12 MPG IS gas guzzling. And most SUVs are at that level to 15 MPG... at least that is what 'Consumer Reports' has been telling me.

Cheney just said conservation shouldn't be part of the policy.

He said it is not a sufficient basis for a comprehensive energy policy... and it isn't. It's a very minor thing, and should not be the basis for any energy policy. The basis should be finding alternate fuel sources.

And Odin, Diss is correct... not everyone has tons of money. If you have to pay thousands to change the battery on a hybrid after a few years, then I don't blame people if they decide to pass.

[Az]

ok.

Odin: I've already presented my theory, that the only countries that are able to produce good cars have been axis powers during WWII, with the Japanese leading the "working class" cars, the Germans having the middle-upper classes' cars, esp. the beautiful BMW, and Mercedes, ( as well as VW for the peons ). The Italians concentrate on Super cars for the overly-rich.

[Sava]

It's a very minor thing, and should not be the basis for any energy policy. The basis should be finding alternate fuel sources.

Funny how conservation was important when we were trying to rid the world of Nazis... but suddenly... it's not so important. hint hint... Imran, if you believe Cheney, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Azazel
ok.

Odin: I've already presented my theory, that the only countries that are able to produce good cars have been axis powers during WWII, with the Japanese leading the "working class" cars, the Germans having the middle-upper classes' cars, esp. the beautiful BMW, and Mercedes, ( as well as VW for the peons ). The Italians concentrate on Super cars for the overly-rich.

VW Beetle

[Az]

Bleh. hate the damn thing.