Is it Vietnam yet?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Not even close, che.

Call me in a few years if order hasn't been restored, and then I may listen to that charge.

After all, we were in the Phillipines for 30+ years and it wasn't a Vietnam .

Except for that whole 18 yr+ Phillippine inssurrection thing.

(I know,I know, "Major combat" ended in the phillippines in 1903)

[Imran Siddiqui]

Except for that whole 18 yr+ Phillippine inssurrection thing.

(I know,I know, "Major combat" ended in the phillippines in 1903)

Yeah... it'd be streaching it a little to call combat after 1903 to be an 'insurrection'. It was as much an insurrection as Southerners shooting at US troops in 1866 .

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Agathon


Yeeeaaahhhh!!!!

Like you on the left have been pushing for increased military budgets to increase pay and benefits.

But never mind reality, you can claim the issue as your own when it suits your purposes.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat

Like you on the left have been pushing for increased military budgets to increase pay and benefits.

Ha HA Ha, fallen into my trap!!!!

Actually I've long favoured radical increases in military pay as well as that of teachers, firefighters and the police. These people, especially the military, get paid like crap for doing a dangerous job(well maybe not the teachers - except those in urban warzones ). No socialist worth his salt would underpay military personnel.

We on the left oppose vast corporate welfare programs disguised as military projects, not the ordinary Janes and Joes who wear boots.

But never mind reality, you can claim the issue as your own when it suits your purposes.

Shows how much you knew.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Like you on the left have been pushing for increased military budgets to increase pay and benefits.

The liberals have. But as for the far left, I think that's a fair assessment. Most don't really think about soldiers, and of those that do you have two groups: ex-soldiers and rabid Maoists. I tend to listen to the leftist Vets.

I'll tell you what, though. It's been those on the right that have been cutting military benefits for the last 60 years.

[Agathon]

Anyway, why pick on military personnel?

It's the backseat burners, rapers, and pillagers in the Administration I can't stand.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
This Administration is trying to cut veteran's benefits, it's trying to cut imminent danger pay from a shockingly low $225 a month to a "**** you" of $150 a month. I has opposed a plan to raise the amount of death benefits for families killed while on active duty from $6,000 to $12,000.

You mean they RAISED it to $225? When I got my pay it was only $150.

They do care about the LIVING personnel, they do their best to keep you alive. But, You're right, they don't do enough after you are out of their grasp.

ACK!

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
This Administration is trying to cut veteran's benefits, it's trying to cut imminent danger pay from a shockingly low $225 a month to a "**** you" of $150 a month.

Are you sure that isn't separation pay. The numbers dont jive with what I was shown just a month ago. 225 sounds too high. Unless those figures take into account all the hazardous extras combined. IIRC I won't get the extra 50 for high altitude jumps



It's kind of funny that the commies and America haters are using economic reasons to run. For some reason I think some of you all are missing the point of wanting to serve. I guess I'm not really surprised. Oh well, to each his own..

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Sprayber
It's kind of funny that the commies and America haters are using economic reasons to run. For some reason I think some of you all are missing the point of wanting to serve. I guess I'm not really surprised. Oh well, to each his own..

I knew guys like you Sprayber. Maybe it was just the Navy, but they were few and far between. Almost everyone does it for the benefits, or at least to get away from home.

[Zylka]

Another day, another thread dedicated to Zylka by a poster who apparently has me on ignore!

GOOD TO BE BACK

[Drake Tungsten]

Originally posted by Krazy Horse
Thanks but no thanks. No troops for Iraq, ever. It's your mess, now you clean it up.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Zylka
Another day, another thread dedicated to Zylka by a poster who apparently has me on ignore!

You're a trendsetter Zylka.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Sprayber
It's kind of funny that the commies and America haters

Sigh....

[monkspider]

The general trend that America has started here will result in a quagmire far, far worse than Vietnam. In fact, it is one that the United States will never get out of. We are on a very rapid path toward self-destruction at this point, in fact, there is no way the USA will even exist as a political entity for more than five to eight years, maybe nine or ten tops. That is, unless we learn to live in greater harmony with the rest of the planet and abandon our fanatical materialism.

[RGBVideo]

Is it Vietnam yet?

No.

We are on a very rapid path toward self-destruction at this point, in fact, there is no way the USA will even exist as a political entity for more than five to eight years, maybe nine or ten tops. That is, unless we learn to live in greater harmony with the rest of the planet and abandon our fanatical materialism.

That's bs, and I hope that you also realise it (if 'we' is referring to the US).