If the Prez lies in the State of the Union, is it a crime?

[Edan]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Blabbing about something which is public knowledge is a bit different from blabbing about something which still isn't public knowledge.

But it had been public knowledge for some time (since before the war, at least).

[Q Classic]

because if you blabbed before, you would be demoralizing our troops in iraq who were liberating those poor infi-- civilians over there. you'd've been a traitor.

of course, blabbing about it now still makes you a traitor according to the high goddess and judge of all that is moral and right, ann coulter, you damn treasonous evil rooting-against-america in-love-with-saddam-and-those-snooty-frenchies traitorous repugnant demonic liberal!

[Imran Siddiqui]

If the President lies in the State of the Union it isn't impeachable. Not required to tell the whole truth in a SoU address. I would not be suprised at all to know that other President's have told a few lies in other SoU addresses.

[Gatekeeper]

Ah, the 1990s. Life was so care-free back then, we even impeached a president for lying about his sexual infidelities.

Gatekeeper

[Andrew1999]

I think there are a lot of people in the Administration that are vulnerable though. Powell, Rumsfeld, and Tenet testify before Congress all the time.

[Q Classic]

i feel sorry for powell. if it's true that he didn't want to present that evidence before the un...

[Edan]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
i feel sorry for powell. if it's true that he didn't want to present that evidence before the un...

If he knew it was false and went ahead anyway, I don't feel sorry for him.

[Sava]

I would not be suprised at all to know that other President's have told a few lies in other SoU addresses.

the old "everyone's doing it, so its okay" excuse...

[Q Classic]

If he knew it was false and went ahead anyway, I don't feel sorry for him.

true, he could have resigned... but i don't think he really had much choice.

[Imran Siddiqui]

the old "everyone's doing it, so its okay" excuse

Damn straight .

[el freako]

Well remember that could also apply to Mr Hussain's attempts to aquire WMD.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Q Cubed

If he knew it was false and went ahead anyway, I don't feel sorry for him.

true, he could have resigned... but i don't think he really had much choice.

If he knew the info was false, he could have refused to make the case. Do you think Bush would have fired him over that? And risk weakening his case and risk making the use of false info public?

[Q Classic]

If he knew the info was false, he could have refused to make the case. Do you think Bush would have fired him over that? And risk weakening his case and risk making the use of false info public?

that i'm not too certain about, honestly. but if powell went with grave reservations, i do think he deserves my pity.
he'd've also lost some of my respect for him...

[GePap]

Actually, as far as the specific piece of news concerned, the supposed Iraqi attempt to aquire Uranium from Niger, which the president mentioned specificly in his state of the Union even after intel passed along to Cheney info that the documents that claim were based on were false, Powell did NOT include that claim in his presentation to the UN: so as far as Niger uranium is concerned, Powell never made that claim in public: Bush was more than willing to though, which just perpetuates my much gretaer respect for Powell than Bush.

[Nubclear]

"The coalition did not go to war under the pretense of weapons of mass murder (sic)." - Rummy.

"There will be those who try to rewrite history." - Bushie.

Both horrible liars. Both convincing the American public.