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**ottok** · July 11, 2003, 08:13

**Solver** · July 11, 2003, 08:16

Ottok in the best of his style

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**DinoDoc** · July 11, 2003, 08:18

Ottok!

**muxec** · July 11, 2003, 08:21

2Solver, thank you

2Tuomerehu, one wise man said "If I was really wise I would remain silent". The majority is not always right.

**Solver** · July 11, 2003, 08:24

2Tuomerehu, one wise man said "If I was really wise I would remain silent". The majority is not always right.

Well, if you were silent, not only would you show how wise you are, but you would also make many people happy.

**muxec** · July 11, 2003, 08:42

Just think deeper. You are poisoned by American pop-culture and tend to separate evil from good. Even terrorist can be good. Just listen to me.

It happened in Kharkow (Ukraine) in 1998. Ukrainian politicans stolen all remaining money from the country and Ukraine became uncapable of paying for gas. The country remained without energy. The city was sheldued so, that we got electricity only few hours a day. And in this time the whole story happened. 9-years boy phoned to police and said "I'm a terrorist, if we'll not have electricity 24-hours a day, the city hall will explode". He was cought next day, and his parents were sentensed. But we, all the 2Mil. population, had electricity the whole day. When I heard about this on TV i felt like now all the city will wake up, and start revolt against corrupted govt., but nothing happened. One 9-years old boy was more brave, than the whole 2 million other citizen. He is my hero.

The story is REAL. People who live in democratic countries think, that this can not happen, but it's real story.

**Pekka** · July 11, 2003, 08:44

Yeah, but this boy claimed to be terrorist. He wasn't. Calling a bomb threat doesn't exactly qualify.

**Solver** · July 11, 2003, 08:47

Just think deeper. You are poisoned by American pop-culture and tend to separate evil from good. Even terrorist can be good. Just listen to me.

All I need is to read the first sentence to realise that you are yet again using absolutely flawed argumentation. For heaven's sake, American pop-culture is stuff like Britney, Avril, and what not. Pop-culture has nothing to do with computers, warez or piracy. Besides, I couldn't care less about it.

Now, because I live in a nowadays-democratic country, unlike Ukraine, there's no chance in hell it would happen. If electricity was lost in the entire city, everyone would anyway work with all possible speed to restore it. Besides, if they caught the boy, they could not have believed the threat. The boy basically did a criminal act.

**muxec** · July 11, 2003, 08:54

The boy basically did a criminal act.

It's actually the thing I'm speaking about. Disobey dumb laws! If the first thief is the government be like it!

Pop-culture has nothing to do with computers, warez or piracy.

First i say that the important part of American culture as we foreighners see it is contrast. Good and evil. Look at Disney's cartoons. Bright colors. Good and evil.
Second. If i'm downloading Britney's mp3 for a free it's warez.

**Solver** · July 11, 2003, 09:06

It's actually the thing I'm speaking about. Disobey dumb laws!

Yeah, let's disobey them! I believe I have some weapons at home... hmm, I think I'm gonna shoot my boss, the guy who likes my girlfriend, and while I'm at it, the annoying 3 years old out there who screams the entire day.

If the first thief is the government be like it!

Another sign of dumbness. Dumb people can only think along the lines of doing something like someone else does, no thinking on their own.

First i say that the important part of American culture as we foreighners see it is contrast. Good and evil. Look at Disney's cartoons. Bright colors. Good and evil.

Disney's cartoons have the target audience of 8 year old kids. If you still have the mental level of an 8 years old, then you should be somewhere else, not here.

**muxec** · July 11, 2003, 09:17

Yeah, let's disobey them! I believe I have some weapons at home... hmm, I think I'm gonna shoot my boss, the guy who likes my girlfriend, and while I'm at it, the annoying 3 years old out there who screams the entire day.

Yes, it's really good example. Who create laws? Ordinary people. Few laws (murder, for example) are rummored to be gifted by God. But the whole thing is, that if majority disobeys the law the law is stupid. It was something about this at www.stupid.com at section called "Stupid words of wisdom". If you hate www.stupid.com you can read Dostoevsky. Reading about Raskolnikov we realize, that murder is almost always crime, but prostitution is not. Real crime is the crime that harms somebody. Or harms more seriously that helps. Is self defensive killing crime?

Disney's cartoons have the target audience of 8 year old kids. If you still have the mental level of an 8 years old, then you should be somewhere else, not here.

8-years is the age, when the moral qualities of the personality are being formed.

Another sign of dumbness.

I told you before, that I'm stupid and I know this. You told me nothing new.

**FrustratedPoet** · July 11, 2003, 09:22

Reading about Raskolnikov we realize, that murder is almost always crime, but prostitution is not.

I think you should go back and read the book again. Although, that comment was so dumb I doubt you've even read it once.

**Solver** · July 11, 2003, 09:32

Yes, it's really good example. Who create laws? Ordinary people. Few laws (murder, for example) are rummored to be gifted by God. But the whole thing is, that if majority disobeys the law the law is stupid. It was something about this at www.stupid.com at section called "Stupid words of wisdom". If you hate www.stupid.com you can read Dostoevsky. Reading about Raskolnikov we realize, that murder is almost always crime, but prostitution is not. Real crime is the crime that harms somebody. Or harms more seriously that helps. Is self defensive killing crime?

So you're saying that anything that is not at Shmot 20:1-18 is a stupid law, invented by people? Please PM me your address and I will send some people to burn your house - I see no reason to obey the laws

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And if the 'majority' disobeys the laws it merely means that the world is no good and the majority are criminals.

8-years is the age, when the moral qualities of the personality are being formed.

Yeah, but in every case except for yours, personalities also change when they grow up from being 8.

**Lefty Scaevola** · July 11, 2003, 11:47

The professional 'pirates' are just goddam lying cheating scumbag theives. If it was easier or more profitable for them to steal milk from babies, the crooked scum would be doing that. Only a fool would believe that most thieves give a damn about anyone or anuthing, but himself and what he can get for himself.

**st_swithin** · July 11, 2003, 12:08

I thought that was the government and Hollywood...

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