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    Woman fined $35 for letting kids drink
    By Christy Gutowski Daily Herald Legal Affairs Writer
    Posted July 10, 2003


    Some called it sensible parenting. Others, such as the police, weren't so convinced.

    A Naperville husband and wife who stirred the public debate appeared in court Wednesday for the first time since being cited for allowing underage drinking in their home.

    In a plea deal, Kathleen Connor was fined $35 after she admitted providing alcohol during her son's high school graduation party. Similar charges against her husband, James, were dropped.

    The couple, both 52, were cited early June 2 after they called police to ask about city parking regulations. They had sought permission to leave cars parked overnight on the street because, police said, they didn't want their underage party goers drinking and driving. The parents even took the teens' keys to ensure they didn't leave.

    Police didn't have a problem with the parked cars, but they crashed the party on the 1300 block of Middleburg Road after learning of the underage alcohol consumption.

    Police also cited seven youths, ages 17 to 20, including the Connors' son, Patrick, for underage drinking.

    The couple's legal woes became fodder for talk-radio callers and newspaper editorials as parental responsibility was a hot topic in the wake of the Glenbrook North High School hazing scandal. Callers were divided. Police took a much harsher stance.

    "They thought they were doing the right thing," Naperville police Sgt. Joel Truemper said after the Connors were cited. "Needless to say, that's not the right thing to do."

    DuPage Associate Judge Daniel Guerin presided over the plea deal. The Connors declined comment Wednesday.

    Charges against the family were among more than 40 police made in Naperville that weekend - the height of high school graduation season. Another Naperville woman, Madeleine Ward, 54, also was cited on suspicion she allowed 14 minors to drink alcohol during a party at her home. She appears in court later this summer.
    So what is the verdict? Was this woman acting properly in providing alcohol during the graduation party? Or was she doing something wrong and irresponsible?

    my 2 cents:

    I think there is nothing wrong with this. Number one, the government... even local government... should not be playing parent. I disagree with the 21 drinking age. If 18-21 year olds are responsible enough to drive vehicles, enter into legal contracts, vote, own guns, DIE FOR OUR COUNTRY; then they should be allowed to consume alcohol.

    Second, even if the drinking age is 21, I see nothing wrong with allowing parents to provide alcohol at a party... especially a major event like a graduation. Kids are going to drink regardless of laws and what their parents do. And by this party being under the parents' supervision, they can monitor the behavior and perhaps even teach the kids about responsible drinking. And even if the party gets rowdy... at least they aren't DRIVING! The kids just spent 13 years in school... I think they deserve to celebrate... and I think the parents have the right to decide whether or not they can drink alcohol.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

  • #2
    Undergae drinkig si greatt! I Didit all teh time and it nevver did me ayn harm!
    If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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    • #3
      Seriously, I have no moral objection to underage drinking, however the bottom line is that it is against the law.
      For the parents to knowingly supply alcohol to kids under 21 is illegal. They knew that. They did it anyway. They got caught. They got a VERY small fine.

      Where's the problem?
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      • #4
        Where's the problem?
        This discussion is about whether or not this should be against the law in the first place.

        I liked your first post.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #5
          Sava, Your 2 cents worth is also my 2 cents worth. And it is right on the money!
          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sava
            This discussion is about whether or not this should be against the law in the first place.
            IMHO yes it should be against the law. However, I think it should not be punished severely (the small fine in this case seems appropriate).

            I also think the legal drinking age should be 18, but I guess that's another argument.
            If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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            • #7
              She didn't just supply alcohol to own child, but to others.
              That should be a crime, and it evidently is .
              My 2 cents.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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              • #8
                Well... in Germany, "soft" alcohols (Beer, Wine) are allowed from 16 on, and you're allowed to drink anything you like from 18 on, and it didn't do any serious harm (I mean, the people are disgusting without that too, alcohol doesn't take much influence on that IMHO).
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                • #9
                  Sava, Your 2 cents worth is also my 2 cents worth. And it is right on the money!


                  I also think the legal drinking age should be 18, but I guess that's another argument.
                  No buddy, that's this argument.
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10
                    Cheers, Dad!
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SlowwHand
                      She didn't just supply alcohol to own child, but to others.
                      That should be a crime, and it evidently is .
                      My 2 cents.
                      When the alternative is for the kids to say "We can't go to so and so's house to party so lets just drive around and have a few" Then it becomes a stupid law. That being said, they should have gotten permission from the other kids parents before supplying them with alcohol. Once that is obtained, then this type of situation is preferable to any other than abstinance by underage drinkers (an unlikely event).

                      Furthermore, citing the parents for supplying alcohol to their own child in their own house while the child was under their strict supervision is, IMO, a huge usurping of parental rights.
                      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                      • #12
                        I need a clapping smiley for that PLATO... beautifully said.
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #13
                          Kids are going to drink one way or another, at least this way its less likely something tragic is going to happen!

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                          • #14
                            What's the problem? I started drinking beer when I was 4.
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                            • #15
                              omg, a 17 year old had a beer! eeeek! Society is doomed!
                              Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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