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  • #1

    my observation

    from the thread on god by Sava is that most of the nontheists picture a god I wouldn't want to follow either (usually as the Christian God)

    so of course they reject Christianity (if I thought God was like that, I wouldn't want to beleive in Him either)

    so is that the main problem with aitheists? their view of god is one that no-one would want to beleive in, so they don't?

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    The main "problem" with atheists is they see how high unlikely a God is, and if that God did exist and wants worship and asks we live life like he dictates, he's an *******.
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    • #3
      I think people get atheism confused with agnosticism... you can not possibly be a man of science and be an atheist as there is no conclusive proff that God does not exist... you can say that for all practical purposes, it can be assumed he does not exist, but that would only be agnosticism...
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      • #4
        A view of what God is has to be given to me by others, because I don't know any God at all really.

        As opposed to some other people, I don't "feel" a God, I don't "see" him, and I don't "sense" anything too.

        I think it's silly to just 'suppose' there is a God simply because there should be a God. Why do we have to accept there is a God if we have nothing going on with that supposed God?

        Things such as luck, or happiness or wisdom are not necessarily 'given' or experienced by/through God. Some people can't seem to accept that some things are just there, abstract things that have nothing to do with the extraordinary, the unexplainable.

        That's basically why I'm atheist. If there wasn't a religion or a church, I wouldn't even consider or ponder about God, just because I don't know it, meaning I don't know it exists, and the lack of a God doesn't hinder my happiness or my life in general.


        I can understand that others have that feeling that without God they'd be unhappy, though. But after all, what you don't know, you can't miss
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        • #5
          I would like to have a god somehow. But I realize its just the easy way out for ppl. to make them feel better, when some loved one dies or whatnot "Uh no! ... he is not really dead being wormfood, he is at some better place and we can meet him again when we die ... "
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          • #6
            maybe the fact that we are here, that there are things, and most important, maybe the fact that therte is empty space - thus objects to fill it, and also our own awarteness of being, is evidence of god. HE dosn't have to be a being who consiously makes things, or lives in 'heaven'.
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            • #7
              as to there being nothing after we die, why is this so terrible? what was there before we were born, and did that state of being effect us at all
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              • #8
                Albert, the fact that God doesn't exist in the practical is pretty much accepted now, right?

                It's just that people tend to relate all abstract notions to God. that's just bollox. It hasn't got to do anything with being rational, but simply accepting that some abstract things are what they are, and that we're not inspired by some higher/other power (or whatever they call it) that we call God.

                Of course, what is God, anything got a definition for it, or explain what it is or how you view it? That at least is quite important in this kind of discussion. Also the fact that everybody sees God differently doesn't make this easier!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Andy-Man
                  maybe the fact that we are here, that there are things, and most important, maybe the fact that therte is empty space - thus objects to fill it, and also our own awarteness of being, is evidence of god. HE dosn't have to be a being who consiously makes things, or lives in 'heaven'.
                  Well, you're certainly contradicting the hardcore christians (and others of course ) that claim God is a creating power.. He is the bringer of happiness and everything that is.. (yeah uh-uh now doesn't that sound corny )
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                  • #10
                    how are you an athiest and not an agnostic, trajanus? are you positive there is no God or do you not know for sure but live your life assuming there is none?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Trajanus


                      Well, you're certainly contradicting the hardcore christians (and others of course ) that claim God is a creating power.. He is the bringer of happiness and everything that is.. (yeah uh-uh now doesn't that sound corny )

                      but i am disagreeing with all these people, i am saying god isn't like that, i mean, we can't understand such a thing, otherwise we wouldn't say things like 'god is infinate', if we understood god we would know for sure, but we don't therefore he must be something other then how we percieve him, and as i said, the fact things exist might be definate proof, simply because it exists.
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                      • #12
                        though i will say this... religious people just about always work hard, pay their bills, and take care of their kids and community... so i mean, you got to love religious people just for that even if their missionarying can get annoying
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                        • #13
                          My atheism has nothing to do with any of the purported virtues or vices of any deity. I'm an atheist because I've seen no convincing evidence for one's existence. I don't feel I need belief in god at the moment. I am capable of living a moral, fulfilled life without believing in a god, so I'm not sure why exactly I should believe in one when there is no evidence for its existence.

                          The image of god you worship is up to you, of course, and you can believe whatever you want. But you should realize that your image of the Christian god seems arbitrarily at odds with what the Bible says (if the Christian god is the same god as Yahweh in the Old Testament, I think moral objections to such a god are obvious).
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                          • #14
                            I'm an atheist because I've seen no convincing evidence for one's existence. I don't feel I need belief in god at the moment.

                            That's agnostic, not atheist.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Asher
                              I'm an atheist because I've seen no convincing evidence for one's existence. I don't feel I need belief in god at the moment.

                              That's agnostic, not atheist.
                              Not really.

                              Agnostics are literally people who believe the truth about God is unknowable. They can be either theistic or atheistic. The word has been bastardized to mean "unsure," but that's not what it should be.

                              Theism = belief that God exists
                              (A)theism = lack of belief that God exists

                              So someone who is "unsure" is still athiest, since uncertainty equals not believing.

                              Now, atheists are in two types:

                              1) Does not believe God exists
                              2) Believes God does not exist.

                              There is a bit of a difference between the two.
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