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  • Attack helicopters have a fairly limited range unless you're equipped for inflight refeuling, so I don't think that the Chechens would attack very many Israelis.
    "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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    • it's nice to see that it's also equal-opportunity, this career choice.
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      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        You assume then that terrorism is only the result of a lack of force and not of 'barbarism'.


        Yes, that is 100% correct. Terrorism is only used by those that cannot fight a war in conventional ways.
        I think we were discussing the targetting of civilians, not terrorist tactics. You're shifting the focus again.
        urgh.NSFW

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        • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
          Attack helicopters have a fairly limited range unless you're equipped for inflight refeuling, so I don't think that the Chechens would attack very many Israelis.
          hi ,

          they dont even have them , the chechens that is , ......

          most have a range of about 400 klicks with internal fuel , 1750 with external , so no , we dont have to worry , ......

          have a nice day
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          • Yes, that is 100% correct. Terrorism is only used by those that cannot fight a war in conventional ways.

            That is an incorrect equation between methods and targets.

            Unconventional tactics (aka Guerilla tactics) are used by a militant group against an overwhelmingingly strong enemy.

            However, when the efforts are pointed directly at the civilians, it is when guerilla actions are called terror.

            You are either confused, or intentionally trying to hide the difference to try and give terrorism the legitimacy that guerilla has.

            Guerilla tactics = tactics of the weaker = acceptable.

            Targetting civilians using guerilla tactics = terrorist tactics = tactics of the heinous = not acceptable.

            It's as simple as that.

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            • I've said that already, Siro. I gues the fallacy was so obvious in his post, That it just screams for someone to reply to it.
              urgh.NSFW

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              • I knew something like this would happen.

                (from the BBC article quoted before)
                Terror fears
                Shouldn't that be activist fears or militant fears?

                BTW, the Tamil Tigers are a Muslim group.

                Just as the Palestinians responded to Israeli occupation.
                Rubbish. Utter, complete, crap. If it was about occupation, there would be no suicide bombings or terror attacks. It is crap firstly because Arab countries/the PA treats its people worse than Israel ever has, and it is crap secondly because when Arab leaders speak of 'protesting the occupation' it refers to not to Gaza and the West Bank but Israel itself.
                It is about a whole society indoctrinated to hate and neglected by dictators who wish to hold onto power [nothing unites like a people with a common enemy).
                I can't say this is true for chechnya-I don't know too much about it. About Israel, however, and the Palestinians, it is true.

                EDIT: Whoever said that Israelis hate Arabs is also saying rubbish. Israelis have their own dimwitted racists just like everyone else-but 99% of Israelis aren't.
                Last edited by Zevico; July 6, 2003, 12:10.
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                • Originally posted by Zevico

                  the Tamil Tigers are a Muslim group.
                  No they're not. Sure there are Muslim Tamils even if most are Hindu, but the Muslims are (mostly) opposed to the nationalism of the LTTE (Tigers).

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                  • My mistake . I'm sure I saw something about that somewhere...oh well.
                    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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                    • I have yet to see a Catholic suicide bomber. I hear about Muslim fanatics blowing themselves up nearly daily.
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                      • You are either confused, or intentionally trying to hide the difference to try and give terrorism the legitimacy that guerilla has.


                        It does. We just have this stupid aversion to civilian casulties when we'd do it ourselves in a long and bloody war (see WW2).
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • Originally posted by Oerdin
                          I have yet to see a Catholic suicide bomber. I hear about Muslim fanatics blowing themselves up nearly daily.

                          hi ,

                          or a Jewish one , .....

                          have a nice day
                          - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                          - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                          WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                          • Guerilla on itself carries no legitimacy. It's judged as any other war.
                            urgh.NSFW

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