Monkspider's Fun Corner: Impersonate your favorite Poly members!

[Sava]

They do... sorry if you can't handle facts, but that's the whole encapsulation of the ideology. Spreading American ideals of democracy instead of intervening for our own interests.

come on Imran, you were making sense the other day... what happened?

[Stefu]

They do... sorry if you can't handle facts, but that's the whole encapsulation of the ideology. Spreading American ideals of democracy instead of intervening for our own interests.

Great Imran parody, umm... Imran...

[monolith94]

mina olen Stefu

-Stefu, Suomithreadi VC

[Imran Siddiqui]

come on Imran, you were making sense the other day... what happened?

I'm still making sense, sorry if you can't handle it .

[Sava]

sorry if you can't handle it

[jack nickelson]I can't handle the lies!
[/jack]
Neo-con policies profit corporations close to the admin. It's a marriage of corporate conglomerates and politics. It has nothing to do with Democracy and freedom

[Imran Siddiqui]

You can buy into the propaganda if you wish, but neoconservatism is about spreading democracy and freedom (which includes capitalism) around the globe. It's SOLELY a foreign affairs ideology.

For example those that wanted to go into Iraq to take out Saddam and instill a better regime would be neocons. Those that wanted to go in there for oil would be more realists (ie, for our interests)... which are on the other side of the IR line from neocons.

[Sava]

You can buy into the propaganda if you wish,

that's exactly what you are doing my friend

You can cite all you like... but I judge a group by their actions... not their lip service.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I judge a group by their actions

You are basing a foriegn affairs ideology on the domestic policies of people who say they are NeoConservatives? Why don't you care what the founders of the movement and greatest proponents say about it? Or do you think that Stalin was 'real' Communism, because that was the actions of the group (of Communists), as compared to their lip service.

What if Bush goes into Liberia (which he will). What will you make of those actions?

And do you think I wanted to go into Iraq because of 'oil'? Do you think that I wanted to go in there because of commerical profits?

[Elok]

Originally posted by Sava
that's exactly what you are doing my friend

You can cite all you like... but I judge a group by their actions... not their lip service.

"That's a good Sava! Now do Wiggum!"
"No, no, I said Wiggum!"

[Sava]

Imran: Then I'll treat neo-cons as naive, illogical idealists rather than evil corporate wh0-res. In either case, they shouldn't be in control of government.

[Imran Siddiqui]

While I'm glad that you think of me as a naive, illogical idealist, I'm sure most of the NeoConservative thinkers are more intelligent than you .

[Drake Tungsten]

While I'm glad that you think of me as a naive, illogical idealist

When did you start to look favorably upon neo-conservative thought, Imran? I thought I was the only one here at Poly who thought they weren't fools.

[Imran Siddiqui]

No, I'm basically a NeoConservative. I just have some realist ideas as well (dealing with balance of power and SOMETIMES our interests).

As with every other political sphere I take from both extremes and thus, by default, I guess, I turn into a moderate .

Although I consider myself more a liberal in IR, but one more willing to use force, which makes me, for all intents and purposes, a NeoConservative.

[Drake Tungsten]

No, I'm basically a NeoConservative. I just have some realist ideas as well (dealing with balance of power and SOMETIMES our interests).

As with every other political sphere I take from both extremes and thus, by default, I guess, I turn into a moderate.

Sounds pretty similar to my views. I guess we have more in common than I thought we did.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Unfortunetly your love of Mac has blinded you from this truth... thinking you can never be the same as a PC user *sniff* .