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    Weird Political Movements -- Phillipines to Return As American Colony?

    Well, they would if the United States Supporters' Alliance had it way.

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    I imagine they don't have any more supporters than the 1,000 or so that marched.
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      Actually, the return to conly isn't that surprising, since liberal democracies now treat their colonies considerably better than before, and the flux of wealth is inverted : the mainland pours money in the colony, rather than plundering it.

      That's why, for example, the one island which remained dependant of France near Madagascar (La Réunion) is considerably more wealthy than neighbouring islands, and that's why the Comoros once asked to join France again. By the same token, I somehow doubt the inhabitants of the American zone in Panama want to become Panamean again...
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        Seriously, The US treated the Phillipines well after the revolution in 1901-02. There are reports of Filipinos in superior positions than Americans during the colonial period... unheard of... a colonized man being a boss to the colonizers! So I'm not too suprised that some want to be back. It was a traditional we take resources from you type deal, but American colonization was focused on building up the infrustructure and industry.
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          As I understand it, the Panamanean zone was never part of the United States. Rather, it was leased in perpetuity from Panama.

          I'm sort of interested in why we gave up the Philipines anyway. Anybody have a good web page on it?

          And why did we gave up the Philipines, but not Puero Rico?
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            Originally posted by Spiffor
            By the same token, I somehow doubt the inhabitants of the American zone in Panama want to become Panamean again...
            Actually, there are no such people. All the Americans left stock lock and barrel, and took everything not bolted down as well. Oh, and it's Panamanian.
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              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              There are reports of Filipinos in superior positions than Americans during the colonial period... unheard of... a colonized man being a boss to the colonizers!
              I am not sure about the Philippines, but that's not what happened in China, in various "leased areas."

              The most famous case is this sign outside of a park, "Chinese and Dogs are not allowed."
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                Don't feel so smug about it. Some Congolese also called for a return of the Belgians and the same occured in French colonies. It's simply law and order they're after.
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                  Besides, I tend to think the calls for the US to pull out of their military positions in the country is much stronger and widespread.
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                    The most famous case is this sign outside of a park, "Chinese and Dogs are not allowed."
                    "dogs excepted on a case by case basis"

                    there have been a few polls in parts of africa that we used to own that have shown the people there would be only too happy for us to come back. no real chance of it ever happening though.
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                    • #11
                      The most famous case is this sign outside of a park, "Chinese and Dogs are not allowed."

                      Actually, that cherished chestnut, so often repeated, is not true.

                      The sign, posted at the entrance to the HuangPu Park on Shanghai's Bund, listed many things that were banned in the park, among them dogs, bicycles, sports, picking flowers, and Chinese who were not servants accompanying westerners. Still offensive, but nothing like the infamous abbreviated "No dogs or Chinese".

                      It is also worth noting that this was, to my knowledge, the only park with such a restriction, and even it was dropped in 1928.

                      While it's certainly true that many westerners were not very respectful toward locals, there was never such a sign equating Chinese with dogs.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Colon
                        Don't feel so smug about it. Some Congolese also called for a return of the Belgians and the same occured in French colonies. It's simply law and order they're after.
                        Thinking of it, I remember one of the former French colonies in the Indian Ocean actually held a referendum about returning as a colony and the pro-camp won it.
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                          Yep, IIRC it was the Comoros.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Spiffor

                            That's why, for example, the one island which remained dependant of France near Madagascar (La Réunion) is considerably more wealthy than neighbouring islands,
                            I was in the neighboring island of Mauritius last summer, and it's doing quite well, thank you. 95% literacy rate, single-digit unemployment, lots of construction, very little poverty or crime, lots of off-shore-banking and cyber-business.

                            DanS we left the Phils after the locals waged a long, drawnout bloody rebellion we couldn't put down.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DanS
                              And why did we gave up the Philipines, but not Puero Rico?
                              My guess would be that it had something to do with the war we fought against them.
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