Berlusconi is a Fun Guy

[Az]

I am sorry, I don't play this game.

Ok, maybe next round.

[Ecthy]

Well Azazel, it seems they failed. Of course, only Jews would poison their enemies after being tortured instead of standing up against the torture like men. Talk about sneaky beings.

GP, that's like accusing a Spaniard of inquisition matters.

[Az]

The last post didn't make any sense.

Try again.

[Ecthy]

oh, it made a lot...

in fact, smilies before and after the line means you're trying desperately to ridicule the opponent

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
I hope Israeli know theirs, too... they got slaughtered in millions without even defending.

they fought effectively and bravely with a handful of weapons in the warsaw ghetto. Partisans fought in the woods outside vilna, and elsewhere. there was a unit of jews from palestine that fought in the british army, and of course there were plenty of jews in the US, UK and commonwealth, and Soviet militaries - including my father, in the US navy.


Of course its difficult for civilians, many women and children, without access to weapons, to fight back.

Bastard.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
Well Azazel, it seems they failed. Of course, only Jews would poison their enemies after being tortured instead of standing up against the torture like men. Talk about sneaky beings.

Nazi.

[Ecthy]

oh yes, the warsaw ghetto, there's an exception, brave people

both of my parents are human beings, and they were married at the time of my creation.

hence I'm not a bastard

now, nazi, there's a matter of definition, though I wouldn't usualyl call myself one

he asked for it, btw. and given what people have been saying about Germans here in the past days, noone should claim a moral high ground and whine about being a target of racism.

[TCO]

I agree that they didn't fight enough. There was a deep streak of pacifism (and still is in some cases) in the community. Part of it has to do with the restrictions that existed in the Middle Ages against Jews being knight or owning land.

Modern Israel is a very different beast.

[Ecthy]

GP, those restrictions were lifted step by step in the 18th and 19th century, they surely affected European societies for a long time though. You could be right about the pacifism, but does a pacifist not fight for his life in the face of death?

one could argue though that there was no face of death, without any proper reports of what's actually happening behind the borders if the camps

[TCO]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
GP, those restrictions were lifted step by step in the 18th and 19th century, they surely affected European societies for a long time though. You could be right about the pacifism, but does a pacifist not fight for his life in the face of death?

one could argue though that there was no face of death, without any proper reports of what's actually happening behind the borders if the camps

I think that someone who is less martial is less likely to fight for his freedom. That's why in the US we had a poupular rebellion. Most people in the US were land-owners. It was a big difference from the way things were in Europe. Modern-day Israel embraces martial things.

[Ecthy]

yeah, but we're talking about the face of death. not too obvious, but from some time on they should have knon they were in **** if they didn't resist

in fact I've seen an interview with the former Israeli ambassador to Germany... he said in the early days of the state of Israel the peope there were quite ashamed because they had accepted defeat without fighting

I wonder if lord of the mark would call that man a nazi too.

[Wernazuma III]

Originally posted by DanS
Why do these parliamentarians believe such stuff is any of their damned business?

Who else should be more aware to what politicians say and how they act than the political opposition? If some politician shows severe lack of understanding the principles of democracy and a free society, the opposition has to speak out, everything else would be ridiculous.

And it seems that the German left can dish out the NAZI talk, but can't take it.

Despite the smiley:
Of course it's as unappropriate to worry about fascism when someone in the Italian government wants to sink strangers on a ship and another one called Mussolini the greatest politician of the 20th century, as it is to call someone a Nazi who just said something you don't like.

[Ecthy]

BTW, why didn't the Italian government get the same restriction as did the Austrian one?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
BTW, why didn't the Italian government get the same restriction as did the Austrian one?

It's not that easy to restrict the 4th econoy of the Union.

[Ecthy]

nuke their capital?