US unmanned bomber proposal - Who do they want to kill this time?

[Kuciwalker]

True, but that's not the point. The point is that you don't need the crew on the ground.

[Panag]

Originally posted by skywalker
True, but that's not the point. The point is that you don't need the crew on the ground.

hi ,

also true , look at the heli formations in gulfwar I , one heli would choose the targets , mark them and other heli's would fire the hellfire's from an other point , ......

it can also be done by other means , .....

the sky is no longer the limit when it comes to laser guided bombs , .....

have a nice day

[Kuciwalker]

But I wasn't trying to prove that it couldn't!

I was trying to prove that it didn't need to be!

We don't disagree anywhere! This is just a misinterpretation :ugh:

[Panag]

Originally posted by skywalker
But I wasn't trying to prove that it couldn't!

I was trying to prove that it didn't need to be!

We don't disagree anywhere! This is just a misinterpretation :ugh:

hi ,

is there , where , .....

have a nice day

[Dinner]

This stuff is a waste of money. We have a $450 billion per year military budget with 50% of it going towards new weapon systems who's only competetion is the older weapon system they are replacing. . Does anyone believe a F-22 is 50% better then a F-15? It costs 50% more and no one is building a plane better then the F-15 for at least 15-20 years. The Euro fighter just catches up with the current F-15's upgraded design and Russia is going to be able to field any new weapon systems and China is just buying old Soviet designs.

We should be cutting this junk and spending more on individual soldiers by increasing pay so it is equal with the civilian equivialent and by restoring the level of funding for the GI Bill and the Army college fund.

[Dinner]

Oh and another thing. If over the last 12 years we've halved the number of units in the Army then why do we still have the same number of officers? It sounds like we have a lot of dead wood just sitting around shuffling paper work. We need to cut the middle management and put more money into the enlisted people who get things done and put money into taking care of the equipement we already have before buying new ones.

[Cruddy]

I would say that a lot of shareholders in defence companies would disagree with you Oerdin.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Oerdin
This stuff is a waste of money. We have a $450 billion per year military budget with 50% of it going towards new weapon systems who's only competetion is the older weapon system they are replacing. . Does anyone believe a F-22 is 50% better then a F-15? It costs 50% more and no one is building a plane better then the F-15 for at least 15-20 years. The Euro fighter just catches up with the current F-15's upgraded design and Russia is going to be able to field any new weapon systems and China is just buying old Soviet designs.

We should be cutting this junk and spending more on individual soldiers by increasing pay so it is equal with the civilian equivialent and by restoring the level of funding for the GI Bill and the Army college fund.

hi ,

there are loads of educational options even today , .....

and if the soldiers dont like it , come to Israel , two years service , three years univ , ......

have a nice day

[Dinner]

I'm talking about making soldiers and not defense contractors the main focus of our defense spending. If you already have the biggest fastest car on the block and no one else even has the prospects of getting a car to equal, much less pass, the speed of your current car then isn't it a waste to spend 50% more for a car that only goes 5% faster?

Wouldn't that money better be spent on under funded areas?

[Panag]

Originally posted by Oerdin
I'm talking about making soldiers and not defense contractors the main focus of our defense spending. If you already have the biggest fastest car on the block and no one else even has the prospects of getting a car to equal, much less pass, the speed of your current car then isn't it a waste to spend 50% more for a car that only goes 5% faster?

Wouldn't that money better be spent on under funded areas?

hi ,

that money is going to be spend on jobs also , ....

have a nice day

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Oerdin
This stuff is a waste of money. We have a $450 billion per year military budget with 50% of it going towards new weapon systems who's only competetion is the older weapon system they are replacing. . Does anyone believe a F-22 is 50% better then a F-15? It costs 50% more and no one is building a plane better then the F-15 for at least 15-20 years. The Euro fighter just catches up with the current F-15's upgraded design and Russia is going to be able to field any new weapon systems and China is just buying old Soviet designs.

We should be cutting this junk and spending more on individual soldiers by increasing pay so it is equal with the civilian equivialent and by restoring the level of funding for the GI Bill and the Army college fund.

*bzzzt* wrong! The single biggest budget Item for the DoD is pay and benefits.(30% or so) Then Maintenance. Then Training. THEN Procurement. Then Base construction. Then "Mescellaenous" ( Jeebus, not Area 51.0!)

By the way, I agree with your last paragraph. f--k the F-22, let the cheaper JSF take it's job. And give me a payraise and apartment style Barracks, damnit!

[Lonestar]

I also demand that every E-3 be given his/her own RAH-66, complete with training, fuel, and spare parts.

[Lonestar]

In addition, the B-1B monstrosity should be retired, and the B-3 should be rushed into production.

[Dinner]

Do we really need another long range nuclear bomber? Why waste money on a weapon system which isn't needed and won't be used?

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Oerdin
This stuff is a waste of money. We have a $450 billion per year military budget with 50% of it going towards new weapon systems who's only competetion is the older weapon system they are replacing. . Does anyone believe a F-22 is 50% better then a F-15? It costs 50% more and no one is building a plane better then the F-15 for at least 15-20 years. The Euro fighter just catches up with the current F-15's upgraded design and Russia is going to be able to field any new weapon systems and China is just buying old Soviet designs.

We should be cutting this junk and spending more on individual soldiers by increasing pay so it is equal with the civilian equivialent and by restoring the level of funding for the GI Bill and the Army college fund.

for once i disagree with you. We need to always be pushing the tech gap between us and ANY adversary as wide as possible. Instead of cutting R&D spending, we need to revise the whole budgeting system of the freakin country. if all goes well, in a 100 years theyll have stealth fighters, and we'll have star destroyers

If the military is given a certain amount of money each fiscal year, and they dont spend it all, they quickly and hastily blow it so as to not lose funding the next year (congress thinking, well gee, they didnt use all that money last time, lets give them less). This wastes billions... it isnt only the military that does this, but the entire beaurocracy of the USA.

These saved billions could then go to soldier and teacher pay raises. Cutting some of those extra officer jobs would be good too. trim the fat. we need more efficiency