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  • #31
    Two reasons. Cruise missiles cost a lot of money individually, whereas AFAIK they're talking about bombs (though the craft that delivers them may be expensive, that's a one-time cost). Second, it's NOT just for fixed sites. They could be laser- or interia-guided bombs (inertia-guided use GPS).

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    • #32
      Dropped from such an altitude that the kinetic force greaty magnifies the stike?

      Anyway, you would still need someone pointing a laser at the target, or to send the GPS cordinates (unless this is now all done by satelite). That still speaks of forward basing of some sort.
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      • #33
        Getting the coords? Can be done by satellite (and quite easily, too).

        Pointing a laser at the target? Can be done by the drone, or a satellite (though we would have to launch one).

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        • #34
          coolass idea.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by chegitz guevara
            So now bomber pilots are gona be fat, smelly geeks, with lots of dandruff, and have food stains on their clothes surounded by cans of Jolt a Cup O'Noodles?
            Haha I can see it now

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            Originally posted by GePap
            Dropped from such an altitude that the kinetic force greaty magnifies the stike?
            Yea in theory.
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            • #36
              And from where does the donr with the laser come from? The Continental US as well? Unlikely.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                So now bomber pilots are gona be fat, smelly geeks, with lots of dandruff, and have food stains on their clothes surounded by cans of Jolt a Cup O'Noodles?


                Yeah, isn't it great? Even you can be in the military now, che.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by GePap
                  And from where does the donr with the laser come from? The Continental US as well? Unlikely.
                  Someone already suggested the use of satelites and drones.
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                  • #39
                    Yes, I know, and that is what the question is aimed at: where would the laser pointing drones come out of?
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                    • #40
                      I know the general in charge of this project Sounded really effective when he showed me his presentation that he was going to show the top brass to get funding for it.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                        So now bomber pilots are gona be fat, smelly geeks, with lots of dandruff, and have food stains on their clothes surounded by cans of Jolt a Cup O'Noodles?
                        probably... its rather upseting. If i do got to flight school, Ill probably be among the last of real pilots, if that time has already not passed by the time i get there. Just unmanned aircraft have soo many advantages without having to deal with a living pilot inside.
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                        • #42
                          I'll see if i can find a link, bu there are also things called "Rods of God", which are basically huge DU rods that are launched form space and by the time they impact the ground, their KE is unimaginable... they'll be used for taking out hardened underground bunkers.
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                          • #43
                            hi ,

                            the hill wants to hold this project in the fridge a while , .....

                            why , simple , for this ;

                            By Julian Borger

                            The Pentagon is planning a new generation of weapons, including huge hypersonic drones and bombs dropped from space, that will allow the US to strike its enemies at lightning speed from its own territory.

                            Over the next 25 years, the technology would free the US from dependence on forward bases and the cooperation of regional allies, part of the drive towards self-sufficiency spurred by the difficulties of gaining international help in the invasion of Iraq.

                            The new weapons are being developed under a programme codenamed Falcon (Force Application and Launch from the Continental US). A US defence website has invited bids from contractors to develop the technology and Jane's Defence Weekly reports that the first flight tests are scheduled to take place within three years. The Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa) website says the programme aims to fulfil "the government's vision of an ultimate prompt global reach capability (circa 2025 and beyond)".

                            The Falcon technology would "free the US military from reliance on forward basing to enable it to react promptly and decisively to destabilising or threatening actions by hostile countries and terrorist organisations," according to Darpa.

                            In other words, said John Pike, head of Washington think tank GlobalSecurity.org: "It's about blowing people up on the other side of the planet even if no country on earth will allow us to use their territory."

                            The ultimate goal would be a "reusable hypersonic cruise vehicle (HCV) . . . capable of taking off from a conventional military runway and striking targets 9,000 nautical miles distant in less than two hours". The unmanned HCV would carry a payload of up to 12,000lb and could ultimately fly at speeds of up to 10 times the speed of sound, according to Daniel Goure, a military analyst at the Lexington Institute in Washington.

                            Propelling a warhead of that size at those speeds poses serious technological challenges and Darpa estimates it will take more than 20 years to develop.

                            Over the next seven years, the US air force and Darpa will develop a cheaper "global reach" weapons system relying on expendable rocket boosters, known as small launch vehicles (SLV) that would take a warhead into space and drop it over its target.

                            In US defence jargon, the warhead is known as a Common Aero Vehicle (Cav), an unpowered bomb which would be guided on to its target as it plummeted to earth at high and accelerating velocity.

                            The Cav could carry 1,000lb of explosives but at those speeds explosives may not be necessary. A simple titanium rod would be able to penetrate 70 feet of solid rock and the shock wave would have enormous destructive force.

                            Jane's Defence Weekly reported that the first Cav flight demonstration is provisionally scheduled by mid-2006, and the first SLV flight exercise would take place the next year. A test of the two systems combined would be carried out by late 2007.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by GePap
                              And from where does the donr with the laser come from? The Continental US as well? Unlikely.
                              The same drone/craft that launched the bomb.

                              That's how it works for ALL laser-guided bombs/missiles.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by skywalker


                                The same drone/craft that launched the bomb.

                                That's how it works for ALL laser-guided bombs/missiles.

                                hi ,



                                its possible to have a crew or team on the ground that makes the target " hot " , then the plane releases the bomb at a distance away and follows the laser from the ground team , ......

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