Liberals do realize that Gore would have been worse, right?

[Nubclear]

[Sava]

Lieberman was all for war, i should add...

I don't like Lieberman one bit. Speer, you're making that whole "black/white" mistake again. The US isn't split between Democrats and Republicans, "us and them", etc. It's possible to hate both sides, but support one only because they won't **** us as hard.

[Al B. Sure!]

alright... so people here have no problem with the war on iraq but were bothered by Bush's lack of respect for the UN? i dont know... how some of yall worded things, it made it seemed that war in iraq was never justified...

what about the capabilities in dealing with the middle east and fighting the war, however? would Gore have had as many people who had been involved in Iraq in 91?

[Cruddy]

Maybe you are right in some of these Herr Speer... we'll never know for sure.

EVEN IF no war in Iraq - still would have been war in Afghanistan... so maybe situation not THAT different.

[Inverse Icarus]

"leiberman is for those voters that want to vote for bush, but feel he's not jewish enough"-Jon Stuart

[Sava]

Speer: to clarify my position on the war in Iraq.

1. I want Saddam dead.
2. I don't want the world to hate us.
3. I don't want corporations close to the president stealing my tax dollars.
4. I don't want the bad things in post-war Iraq to be blaimed entirely on America.
5. I don't want to be lied to.
6. I don't want to see people in our Armed Forces (which many of my friends serve in) die for political ends.

Bush's war only gave me Saddam's death. That's it. Well, maybe not confirmed death, but he's not in charge anymore. But those other 5 things (just 5 off the top of my head, there are more) didn't get taken care of. War in Iraq should have been postponed and happened when we had the following:

1. The rest of the free-world on our side.
2. The rest of the world helping us clean up the mess.
3. An anti-war-profiteering bill like we had in WW2
4. SOLID PROOF OF WHY WE SENT OUR TROOPS IN HARMS WAY

[Q Classic]

and thirdly, Bush has surrounded himself with people who were involved in the first war in Iraq what with Cheney and Powell (and he could always talk with his dad), so the Bush administration has undoubtedly done better in Iraq than a Gore presidency would have done.

i'm not convinced gore would have had a war in iraq...

[GePap]

I doubt highly Gore would have gone to war with Iraq, given that his advisors would have not pushed that policy.

If Gore had followed his policy promises during rthe election the deficit would be much lower, and that is all we can safely bet on. With the reps in control, who knows what would have gotten done in the Congress. I can imagine some very harsh battles there, speically aftyer the whole election (the reps. would have been far far more bitter about defeat than dems, since it would just add +4 year more to the Dems. control of the WH).

As for his reaction to 9/11? No clue. One simply can not forsee how someone would act under such circumstances.

[SlowwHand]

Gore would make an excellent comedian.
On SNL, he was outstanding.

To have him in the Oval Office during recent events would have been pathetic.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Gore would make an excellent comedian.
On SNL, he was outstanding.

To have him in the Oval Office during recent events would have been pathetic.

Even more so than Dubya's "choking on pretzel" incident? Or his refusal to immediately attend to the news of the 9-11 attack?

[SlowwHand]

A) Choking on food isn't that unusual.
B) Unlike people here, he wanted to get all the facts, and make plans, before making a statement.

People here have no qualms about shooting from the lip.

[darkgrendel]

What? Get facts? Like he did with Iraq, right..?

[GePap]

Like you don't?

No one hear has a clue how anyone else as president would have reacted to 9/11, and no one here can make anything close to a quasi-intelliegent guess about it either.

We can;t even know that if Gore had become president, there would still have been 9/11 (not that the Bushies are at fault with it). We have no clue how the world could have been.

[Q Classic]

a) most people are smart enough not to admit that they choked on a pretzel. come on, why not say he and rumsfeld tried boxing?

[SlowwHand]

GePap, you're amazing.
You use the same facts to condemn Bush and at the same time prop up Gore.
Ever think of going into advertising?
You could probably sell crap to a chicken farmer.