Hopefully, Equal Opportunities Will Never Exist

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
equal opportunities != equal numbers of employees from each demographic group

equal opportunities == equal ratios of employees from each demographic group to members of population within each demographic group.
0/10

still wrong

equal opportunities == success is directly proportional to ability ONLY

[Ming]

Originally posted by Boddington's
Maybe when some parents come online they'll manage to see what I am hitting at.

I'm a parent... and I see EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE HITTING AT... Minorities... as ALWAYS...

[Japher]

I must accept the fact that racism and bigotry exist

Yup. Ignore it and it will go away never works, it is that kind of "regressive thinking" I would like see done away with...

[Starchild]

Could we have an equal opportunity banning? Pwease?

[Japher]

The Mods would never ban themselves

[Al B. Sure!]

GePap:

actually Alexander the Great did have a son except he was brutally murdered a few years after Alexander died

[GePap]

Well, that's news to me.

Still, daddy does not seem ot have cared much about making sure his kid did well.

Stalin had kids ans well, and he could have not cared less about them. As evil as he was, the accomplished more than 99% of human beings ever will.

[PLATO]

Many of the most ambitious and driven people on earth could give a **** about their kids and what happens to them, even while they are alive.

and

Stalin had kids ans well, and he could have not cared less about them. As evil as he was, the accomplished more than 99% of human beings ever will.

Got any examples of successful people that DON'T have kids for your argument

[GePap]

Hitler, for one. Did any of the great Philosophers have lots of kids?

Did Trajan have a kid?

Oh, and what about Jesus?

And given how often you do hear about the kids, its hard to see how important they could have been to the lives of many of them.

[PLATO]

Glad I could help !

[Whaleboy]

I knew I was in for a laugh when I saw the thread title

Equality of opportunities shouldn't be legally enforced to the point at which they hurt liberty imo, but they should be socially encouraged.

Equal opportunities for success dont mean equal success.

In that sense, everyone should have equal legal rights and legal status, however, when it comes to employers, they should be free to choose who they want, on whatever basis because it is private domain.

Obviously, in public sector services for employment, people shuold be chosen on the basis of ability not race or sex. In that sense, it should be govt policy not to actively discriminate, but also not to have quotas of demographic groups in proportion to the population.

Two whom do you refer advocating that they should have less opportunity?

[Kuciwalker]

YAY!

Another voice of reason... and a liberal, too!

I just realized what I just said

[Drogue]

I agree with elijah. Equal opportuity for success, but not quotas for demographic groups. It should simply not come into the equation. Like that UM thing of giving a numerical points advantage to minorities People should be given jobs/places on the basis of talent and ability, not skin colour. Positive discrimination [sic] is just as bad as negative discrimination, they both discriminate based on sex, colour, creed or religion. That isn't right IMHO.

[Whaleboy]

Another voice of reason... and a liberal, too!
I just realized what I just said

You may say I'm a dreamer...

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Would someone with more patience than I possess please explain the difference between "Equal OPPORTUNITIES" and communism?

He's going to be graduating soon. What the hell has happened to the education system?

Ok, let's see if I can speak for you accurately.

Equal opportunity is something which is impossible to achieve. Even if it was a possibility, success would be determined strictly by ability as skywalker has stated. If success was determined strictly by ability it doesn't follow that the losers would benefit from the system. Communism is a system that recognizes that opportunity can not be equal and that the govt should benefit everyone and treat everyone fairly.