The war on terrorism is unwinnable

[TCO]

DGA up, CDA up, chlorides negative. pH constant.

What is the casualty? What are the ship's immediate actions. what are your actions as ELT? Outline (broadly) some of the supplemental actions. what calculations would you perform if I had given you unmbers to go with today's and yesterday's chemistry?

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by oedo
but what is your definition of a terror organisation then? and how can we disassociate a terror org. from a criminal org. and a liberty fighting org.?

I´d say you can easily say it is a criminal org when it hasn´t primarily political goals.

The rest is a bit more difficult, since it depends a lot on your personal POV. We discussed similar problem´s in Diss´thread about "terrorism as legitimate form of warfare".

Sure one can always claim he´s not a terrorist, but a freedom fighter. However, in case of Al Quaeda they hardly can claim that, since the US wasn´t present as occupying force in the ME before this spring. All they do is whining about evil US supporting Israel. Oh, and they also whine about evil US supporting Arab "traitors" like Egypt or Jordan. While it can much be said about those states, they are certainly not anti-Arabic. So their "crime" in OBL´s eyes is that they are not fundamentalist enough. And of course evil US is also supporting Saudi Arabia (I hope they don´t do it much longer), where little OBL wanted to be something more than the holy man in the mountains.

So all their "freedom-fighting" looks like a struggle for personal power combined with religious idiocy, but not for the freedom of the masses. The sad thing is that so many Arabic people seem to believe he´s doing this all for a greater good. If OBL wanted freedom, he had the influence to implement it with his friends, the Taleban, as long they were in power in Afghanistan. Seems he didn´t care much about freedom there.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Azazel
those who are with us, and those who are against us, of course.

When were you replaced by a Dubya clone?

[Az]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


When were you replaced by a Dubya clone?

got you scared, huh?

[Ted Striker]

BS

Coalition: bad azzes chasing these fools to the ends of the earth for as long as it takes

Al Queda: p ussies

[Berzerker]

But what can we do in the meantime?

Kick back, have a beer, and watch baseball.

[Dis]

Originally posted by GP
DGA up, CDA up, chlorides negative. pH constant.

What is the casualty? What are the ship's immediate actions. what are your actions as ELT? Outline (broadly) some of the supplemental actions. what calculations would you perform if I had given you unmbers to go with today's and yesterday's chemistry?

err I was not expecting that.

gaseous activity and charged disk activity up? Looks like a fuel element failure.

My actions? run screaming naked off the side of the ship- you sub guys can't do that .

supplemental actions- find some nice carribean island with topless beaches and live life to the fullest.

my only calculations would be how many beers I have before I bang some chick.

Now back to the thread at hand- whatever that is.

[Ecthy]

The goal of the WOT is to keep terrorism out of the US / the west, not to hunt down every single terrorist.

Simple as that, and therefore it is winnable, in a way.

[Dis]

well I do think we can reduce the threat level to a reasonable level.

At least for a while.

Whether that sticks or not is up in the air.

[Ecthy]

the US has an advantage in comparison with Israel, you guys donät have the guys next door

unless the Canadians or the Texans become terrorists

Mexicans wouldn't be a problem since that border can be closed. somewhat. er. never mind.

[Dis]

What I find interesting is the die down in domestic terrorism.

Although I feel the goverment overblown the threat of domestic terrorists in the first place.

I think in reality it was just a few kooks after all. Sure there are a lot of militias, but 99.9% of those guys will never do anything.

The Anthrax probably was domestic- but in terms of death toll, wasn't too bad. It was more of a fear spreading tool.

And you had Oklahoma City bombing. Unibomber maybe. Other than that, what have we had? Eric Rudolph. He wasn't that much of a menace.

[Ecthy]

your school shootings are probably worse threats to your society than your domestic terrorists.

west germany eliminated all of those in the 70s. some in the 90s. all dead or in prison now