Apple launches the PowerMac G5

[Sava]

APPLE SUCKS!

[Whaleboy]

Exactly. If Munich was a country, it would certainly be small and insignificant

A rich first world city, with many likely to follow considering that such an administration would go through logical and rational reasoning before switching to linux, similar processes would occur in other cities, and governments.

[Asher]

Originally posted by elijah
You're not exactly neutral in this debate between linux and windows. If you wont give me a case as to why I should switch to windows, can I take it that you cant?

You could take it as that if you were feeling particularly daft.

Most people know how many pages I could spew about why I like Windows over Linux. Which is why I'm not going to. I plan to relax tonight.

The third world is an increasinly important market for desktop computing, and it is one where linux is gaining a good hold.

That's definitely true. It also remains true that the third world's desktop computing means absolutely nothing to me.

I don't exactly consider it a compliment for Linux when it's mostly used in areas where the average income is $500/yr and there's 1 car per every 1,000 people in a nation. But if people wanna brag about that, they can go all out.

Personally, I find LUGs to be far more efficient than hanging on the phone for hours to be told to reinstall.

So why don't you use a WUG for tech support rather than phone.

Hell, even Apolyton is an excellent tech support site.

[Asher]

Originally posted by elijah
A rich first world city, with many likely to follow considering that such an administration would go through logical and rational reasoning before switching to linux, similar processes would occur in other cities, and governments.

Nice spin.

Munich is an East German city that was communist until ~15 years ago, and is still very left-wing. (At least, I'm pretty sure it was East German, as it's in eastern Germany...)

And it's a simple ideological fact that left-wingers are more open and accepting to the concept of open source.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- announcing when some small town in England adopts Linux for its dispatch computers (it seriously happened), or when Munich decides to replace its 20,000 city computers with Linux desktops, is absolutely nothing.

Every day, 1000x more institutions choose Windows over Linux regularly.

And despite what people think, Windows Server's usage is unquestionably on the rise.

Linux advocates need a reality check before anyone can take them seriously.

[Whaleboy]

I don't exactly consider it a compliment for Linux when it's mostly used in areas where the average income is $500/yr and there's 1 car per every 1,000 people in a nation. But if people wanna brag about that, they can go all out

I think its good news, even MS seems to be giving something of war chest to third world concerns, look at the india case, and the memos telling salespeople "not to let linux win at all costs" or whatever it was.

Besides, says something about costs as well when these people are choosing linux. Not to mention performance on old hardware that they will get etc etc.

Windows has many many times the number of people using it than has linux, yet there is not a single WUG in Northampton, or even this region of England that I know of. Linux is a more community based system anyone, one would expect that, windows is hardly a cult OS. I'm not part of that cult but I'll be damned if I dont take advantage of it!

Apolyton is an excellent technical support site if you dont like straight answers . Personally, and no disrespect to those that answer questions on here, I rather get my info from people that have spent years using linux and unix, or IT professionals, or programmers, or hackers etc etc.

[Asher]

I rather get my info from people that have spent years using linux and unix, or IT professionals, or programmers, or hackers etc etc.

Who do you think answers them here?

[Whaleboy]

And it's a simple ideological fact that left-wingers are more open and accepting to the concept of open source.

I hardly think its a fact, why dont you show me some figures for that?

If its true, then of course those on the right are going to be sicked at the prospect of people cooperating and working together.... pure evil.

Linux advocates need a reality check before anyone can take them seriously

Why don't you enlighten us, before we take you seriously?

[Whaleboy]

Who do you think answers them here?

Civ fans?

[Whaleboy]

You really like that site don't you Sava?

[Asher]

Originally posted by elijah
I hardly think its a fact, why dont you show me some figures for that?

It's a simple common sense thing.

Why don't you tell me why it isn't the case? Provide evidence or argue rationally.

If its true, then of course those on the right are going to be sicked at the prospect of people cooperating and working together.... pure evil.

Not really, because Linux's development is largely controlled by huge, American corporations now.

Why don't you enlighten us, before we take you seriously?

People don't have to take me seriously, it just so happens that I base my opinions in reality.

I've been hearing for years that Linux is going to catch up on the desktop, and its share (at least in NA) is essentially unchanged. I've heard MS would've been broken up, I insisted it'd never happen. Then it was MS would be forced to release Windows sourcecode: I said it'd never happen, it never did. Then it's the Sun Java crap: I said they'd never force MS to ship it, and they didn't.

And in the hardware field, I told people back when the P4 was a rather disappointing chip that it will be the fastest: It just needed the 512KB cache and 533MHz systembus it was designed for, and >2GHz clockspeeds. And look what happened? Intel clearly designed the better chip, on the same process it's quite a bit faster.

Linux advocates tend to live in their own little world. They're disconnected. That's why they make so little sense.

That's why the Linux filestructure is beyond retarded.

[Asher]

Originally posted by elijah
Civ fans?

Civ fans who happen to be people that have spent years using linux and unix, or IT professionals, or programmers, or hackers etc etc..

[Sava]

yes I do

[Panag]

Originally posted by Sava
everyone knows APPLE IS NAZI!

post your crap somewhere else , .....

especially your stupid remarks that are completely crazy , ....

[Wiglaf]

Hey asher, I'd seriously respond to your post but the "uncrashable" XP just rebooted, frying my "saved to disk" desktop settings. And don't forget about the "compatability wizard" that is really a useless voodoo freak with one mission: screwing your old Win95 software. And it took me 5 minutes to hook up a canon digital camera on a mac and over three hours of driver bashing, "your camera ain't recognized" pain on an Inspiron PC notebook.

My marketing campaign is better than yours.

[Wiglaf]

Actually, your bickering threads are beginning to remind me of the compatability wizard, asher. Stay away from my Win95 software.