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Originally posted by C0ckney
i don't just mean economically.
i don't just mean economically.
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When poverty is as bad as it is in India we better deal with that first.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Then you aren't reading the same article as I do.Originally posted by Kidicious
Colon,
But throughout the article they argue that India doesn't make the reforms because of their democracy. There have been reforms, but they have been slow.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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Lesson: if China properly opens its systems now, India is doomed?Comment
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Colon,
So that part says that democracy hasn't worked well, right?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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Question: how am I to weigh those national poverty line things? If China has 5% below it and India 21%, that doesn't mean sh!t as long as those poverty lines are self-declared, does it?
What about international poverty line agreements (UN or so), how do they stand there?Comment
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Do you think that if India were a dictatorship like China that they would be able to achieve the economic reforms? How do things like culture play into it?
It depends on what kind of a Authoritarian leader was he. There are many different examples of dictators influencing things in different ways.
Culture has it's sides too, like the Hindu caste system, which gives only mixed signs about it wanting to go away or not.Comment
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With their society being in no way egalitarian, it's not a democracy anyway (not even only halfway so).Comment
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So what about a dictator that ends the caste system?Originally posted by Azazel
Do you think that if India were a dictatorship like China that they would be able to achieve the economic reforms? How do things like culture play into it?
It depends on what kind of a Authoritarian leader was he. There are many different examples of dictators influencing things in different ways.
Culture has it's sides too, like the Hindu caste system, which gives only mixed signs about it wanting to go away or not.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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Should we also say that a failed dictatorship is not a dictatorship?Originally posted by Ecthelion
With their society being in no way egalitarian, it's not a democracy anyway (not even only halfway so).I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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what a ridiculous conclusion somewhat
depends on how it failed, if failure only means governmental violence all over the place it still is a dictatorship.Comment
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not if you consider human rights and basic freedoms more important, which, sadly, i suspect you don't.Originally posted by Kidicious
When poverty is as bad as it is in India we better deal with that first."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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Certainly not. You don't seem to be able to measure the suffering that exists in India due to poverty.Originally posted by C0ckney
not if you consider human rights and basic freedoms more important, which, sadly, i suspect you don't.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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Well then if a democracy fails it is still a democracy unless it has become something else.Originally posted by Ecthelion
what a ridiculous conclusion somewhat
depends on how it failed, if failure only means governmental violence all over the place it still is a dictatorship.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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indeed. likewise you seem unable to gauge the suffering of people in china because of their government.Originally posted by Kidicious
Certainly not. You don't seem to be able to measure the suffering that exists in India due to poverty."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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The existence of the caste system in India *alone* is sufficient to make the two countries incomparable.
The caste system is in no way the fault of their "democracy," as it has existed for far longer than their current form of government in any case, and it is the single biggest reason for the wide gap you see.
Fix that, you totally change the picture. Good luck with it though, because it's such an ingrained part of their culture, I'm not sure what it would take to remove it.
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