Why is Diversity Deemed to be A Good Thing?

[Az]

Well, look, I am a utilitarian, so yes, obviously.

I think there are things that are more ethical, and less ethical than others. If you don't, then it's your loss.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Boddington's
And how are you separating ethnicities and cultures? Different ones of those are found together.

same ethnic group can have different culture.

Just look at white protestant hick VS white protestant new yorker.

[Az]

thanks, Zero.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Boddington's


Who is the considering whether something is a birth defect or not?

Usually a "defect" is considered a trait that is unseen in majority of population that affects individuals chance of survival or sexual selection. Six fingers would be considered a defect because it affects individuals appearance.

Its really a relative matter.

[Uncle Sparky]

I was planning on posting something nice, positive and witty (like "Without ethic diversity we would never have curry chips!") until I read

Originally posted by Azazel
It worries me that you people don't care about yourself dying off.

That statement reminds me of our old friend Joe who used to post amazingly anti Semitic & homophobic posts here. IMHO, it is the most racist thing I've read in OT in years.

What the **** do you mean by "you people" ??? Were all your ancestors from the same small village somewhere ? Are you saying that if someone marries from outside "their people" then "their people" will somehow be come impure and die off ? What about their children - will they just be a mongrel race ?

Individuals should be allowed to decide which cultural traits they will embrace or ignore. The more cultures they are exposed to, the more variety they can choose from & enjoy. A monocultural society, one where the state has decided "This is what it means to be a true German" or "This is what it means to be a patriotic American" are doing their citizens a great disservice for the sake of cohesion.

[C0ckney]

i actually agree with the cultures thing 'if you come to live in england, be english, otherwise f*ck off' would sum up my position

[Zero]

Originally posted by Azazel
That has always been my opinion. Also, there are cultures that are better and/or worse. There are also cultures that are roughly equal.

just curious, how do you weigh the superiority/inferirority on each culture?

morality? efficiency? anti-semitism? (based on how close it is to ur native culture) etc... I personally base it on efficiency, which is why so many ppl mite have trouble with the ethics on my view..

[Zero]

Originally posted by Boddington's


So are we reaching the conclusion that diversity of ethnicities is no bad thing, but diversity of cultures is?

that sounds almost true. Usually when cultures between two become merged/assimilated/similar so well, the ethnic barrier becomes very transparent.

[August Borms]

Diversity (genetic and cultural) is incredibly important. Which is why we need to put a stop to immigration NOW!

[Zero]

Originally posted by August Borms
Diversity (genetic and cultural) is incredibly important. Which is why we need to put a stop to immigration NOW!

That could be taken very seriously actually.. ever noticed if u mix colors, eventually they all turn brown? If folks immigrate and we all cross-breed... we wont have any varieties and will all turn brown!

[Az]

Glad to break your mood.

What the **** do you mean by "you people" ??? Were all your ancestors from the same small village somewhere ? Are you saying that if someone marries from outside "their people" then "their people" will somehow be come impure and die off ? What about their children - will they just be a mongrel race ?

Yes, that's what I meant. *sigh*

Read some more of my posts around, before you begin slinging mud my direction, and calling me a racist. What I meant is that population of Europe is declining, and it's culture is dissappearing.

Individuals should be allowed to decide which cultural traits they will embrace or ignore. The more cultures they are exposed to, the more variety they can choose from & enjoy. A monocultural society, one where the state has decided "This is what it means to be a true German" or "This is what it means to be a patriotic American" are doing their citizens a great disservice for the sake of cohesion.

Very cute, yet completely castrating the meaning of the world "culture" into what food you eat and what music you listen to.

[Solly]

Diversity (genetic and cultural) is incredibly important. Which is why we need to put a stop to immigration NOW!

With liberal immigration, in the short-term the infusion of new cultures might lead to greater diversity. In the long-run however, all cultures will mish-mash into the same generic, bland mix.

Is immigration thus stealing diversity from future generations for our own selfish ends?

[Az]

just curious, how do you weigh the superiority/inferirority on each culture?

morality? efficiency? anti-semitism? (based on how close it is to ur native culture) etc... I personally base it on efficiency, which is why so many ppl mite have trouble with the ethics on my view..

I believe that culture, the entire framework of accepted human interactions, can be more ethical, or less so. I believe that the culture that is the most utulitarian is the most ethical, since my ethics are utilitarian.

[David Floyd]

Interesting sidenote:

I did a self-evaluation at work recently, and one of the sections was a section on Diversity in the Workplace, and how I manage it. I thought for a minute, then X'd it out and put a big N/A over the whole section. When my boss and I went over everything, I told him that I thought emphasizing diversity in the workplace was "PC silliness", and that it had absolutely nothing to do with my job, or anyone's job performance.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Azazel

just curious, how do you weigh the superiority/inferirority on each culture?

morality? efficiency? anti-semitism? (based on how close it is to ur native culture) etc... I personally base it on efficiency, which is why so many ppl mite have trouble with the ethics on my view..

I believe that culture, the entire framework of accepted human interactions, can be more ethical, or less so. I believe that the culture that is the most utulitarian is the most ethical, since my ethics are utilitarian.

very well. I was gonna ask then what is the ethics you base on, but you already defined it. U're way ahead of me

But if it is utalitaria, what would you say to kamikaze bombers? aren't they doing something thats utalitarian for their culture? Does that make them more superior to other culture?